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Re: "Giant Squid" Mic clipping problem
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2011, 07:41:01 PM »
Not to pile on, but even the samples on Squid's site sound like ass... distorted, etc.  Coresounds (admittedly, more expensive) are far superior.  My man hi and lo's Dynamic Audio line are infinitely superior too and were closer to that price point....

Folks on DIME love posting garb from internal mics, too.   I am on the fence as to those are worse than Squids, but generally I think the answer must be yes.

I never download a internal mic source

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Re: "Giant Squid" Mic clipping problem
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2011, 09:23:09 PM »
Not to pile on, but even the samples on Squid's site sound like ass... distorted, etc.  Coresounds (admittedly, more expensive) are far superior.  My man hi and lo's Dynamic Audio line are infinitely superior too and were closer to that price point....

Folks on DIME love posting garb from internal mics, too.   I am on the fence as to those are worse than Squids, but generally I think the answer must be yes.

I never download a internal mic source

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Re: "Giant Squid" Mic clipping problem
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2011, 10:31:09 PM »
I never download a internal mic source

Me neither!

Ditto.  No more.  The few that I have were garbage and not even worth the time they took to download.  I'm sure that in the right hands a capable recording can be made with internal mics but I personally haven't heard it yet.

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Re: "Giant Squid" Mic clipping problem
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2011, 03:25:29 AM »
The only decent internal sources I've grabbed have been onstage.
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Re: "Giant Squid" Mic clipping problem
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2011, 02:44:09 PM »
I don't *think* I've ever heard an internal mic source of anything remotely loud that wasn't distorted.  I do think I've seen reports of stuff like onstage jazz being recorded with M10 internals with good luck

I love how the DIMEbros are always like "I applied some bass rolloff to reduce the distortion" right after they said how smokin their pull is.  I think I hate the fluffing of shitty pulls as much as the pulls themselves.  Especially when they're then "remastered" and the person lists like $5000 worth of (stolen, obviously) audio editing software used to polish this turd. 
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Re: "Giant Squid" Mic clipping problem
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2011, 02:48:47 PM »
I don't *think* I've ever heard an internal mic source of anything remotely loud that wasn't distorted.  I do think I've seen reports of stuff like onstage jazz being recorded with M10 internals with good luck

I love how the DIMEbros are always like "I applied some bass rolloff to reduce the distortion" right after they said how smokin their pull is.  I think I hate the fluffing of shitty pulls as much as the pulls themselves.  Especially when they're then "remastered" and the person lists like $5000 worth of (stolen, obviously) audio editing software used to polish this turd.
+1.  I understand the need of using some gentle EQ (a touch of bass off under 100Hz and slight bump around 800Hz through 2.5kHz of about 1.5-2dB at the most) plus a little bit of limiting but that's about all I'll ever do myself.  A turd is a turd is a turd.

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Re: "Giant Squid" Mic clipping problem
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2011, 02:57:31 PM »
I don't *think* I've ever heard an internal mic source of anything remotely loud that wasn't distorted.  I do think I've seen reports of stuff like onstage jazz being recorded with M10 internals with good luck

I love how the DIMEbros are always like "I applied some bass rolloff to reduce the distortion" right after they said how smokin their pull is.  I think I hate the fluffing of shitty pulls as much as the pulls themselves.  Especially when they're then "remastered" and the person lists like $5000 worth of (stolen, obviously) audio editing software used to polish this turd.
+1.  I understand the need of using some gentle EQ (a touch of bass off under 100Hz and slight bump around 800Hz through 2.5kHz of about 1.5-2dB at the most) plus a little bit of limiting but that's about all I'll ever do myself.  A turd is a turd is a turd.
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Re: "Giant Squid" Mic clipping problem
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2011, 03:02:09 PM »
I EQ most of my recordings to some limited degree.  On occasion, especially for shows where I directly mic'd the band, I will do a lot more (add reverb, other more heavy-handed effects).

I just find it f'ing hilarious when the gear chair is like:

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REMASTERED BY CRAZYSOUNDGUY

.... I mean, come on!  My view is, spend 1/5 the time it took you to steal all that software and plugins actually working at a job / overtime at your current job, or better yet, skip buying tickets to a few shows, and you'd have the $$$ for a solid Church rig that could actually make something worth listening to.  I mowed lawns to pay for my first gear.  It can be done...
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Re: "Giant Squid" Mic clipping problem
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2011, 03:15:50 PM »
I EQ most of my recordings to some limited degree.  On occasion, especially for shows where I directly mic'd the band, I will do a lot more (add reverb, other more heavy-handed effects).

I just find it f'ing hilarious when the gear chair is like:

Edirol R-09 (in shirt pocket)>Izotope Rx (sonic maximalisation, hypnotic regulator, de-esser, hard limiter)>WaveLab (multivariable calculus optimizer, bass volumizer)>etc.
REMASTERED BY CRAZYSOUNDGUY

.... I mean, come on!  My view is, spend 1/5 the time it took you to steal all that software and plugins actually working at a job / overtime at your current job, or better yet, skip buying tickets to a few shows, and you'd have the $$$ for a solid Church rig that could actually make something worth listening to.  I mowed lawns to pay for my first gear.  It can be done...
LMAO.  I remember dropping $1000 on a D7 and another $300 on my Core Sound Binaurals back around '94.  I made the money from a part-time job while in high school, so I fully agree. 

A more normal chain looks like this: (mics) > (pre / battery box) > (deck) at 24/48 > Adobe Audition (slight EQ, limiting) > WAV > CDWAV > FLAC > YOU.

That's what I use and that's all you really need. :)

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Re: "Giant Squid" Mic clipping problem
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2011, 05:47:13 PM »

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Re: "Giant Squid" Mic clipping problem
« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2011, 06:14:53 PM »
This dude's a "remaster" legend.... in his own mind  ;D

http://www.guitars101.com/forums/f145/zz-top-2011-05-29-the-wharf-orange-beach-al-exc-aud-remastered-118524.html
Ugh... another site that's a waste of time with all sorts of "legends" in their own mind.  :S

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Re: "Giant Squid" Mic clipping problem
« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2011, 11:01:42 PM »
The words remaster and "COOL EDIT PRO" Do not belong in the same sentence. Real remastering involves real gear costing real money and real talent lol. I do like cool edit pro its great software but its not what I would call mastering software.
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Re: "Giant Squid" Mic clipping problem
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2011, 11:08:16 PM »
The words remaster and "COOL EDIT PRO" Do not belong in the same sentence. Real remastering involves real gear costing real money and real talent lol. I do like cool edit pro its great software but its not what I would call mastering software.
I think that was the joke, Chris. :)

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Re: "Giant Squid" Mic clipping problem
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2011, 11:22:58 PM »
The words remaster and "COOL EDIT PRO" Do not belong in the same sentence. Real remastering involves real gear costing real money and real talent lol. I do like cool edit pro its great software but its not what I would call mastering software.
I think that was the joke, Chris. :)

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Re: "Giant Squid" Mic clipping problem
« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2011, 09:01:53 AM »
" NEVERMIND "  ;D
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