Author Topic: Sony PCM M1 opinions... (Read 7734 times)

ChoobieWoobie · « **on:** April 12, 2004, 03:07:53 PM »

I'm seriously considering picking up a Sony PCM M1...what are your opinions on this deck?

-Choob

nic · « **Reply #1 on:** April 12, 2004, 03:22:58 PM »

imo, it's a great small DAT deck.
if you plan on patching with it, I HIGHLY recomend picking up a digital splitter as the M1 output voltage is somewhat incompatable with other decks such as D7/8 and DA-P1

Brian Skalinder · « **Reply #2 on:** April 12, 2004, 03:23:36 PM »

It's a great portable deck, IMO. How will you use it:

Analog-in?
Digital-in?
Open taping?
Stealth?

Scuba Jeremy · « **Reply #3 on:** April 12, 2004, 03:54:12 PM »

The M1 is the only deck I've ever owned, but it is a great little deck. The analog in is pretty sweet for the size, great for stealthing as well. For open taping, it has a nice clean display which I use often, because my UA5 does not have VU meters.

Bought mine new, never looked back. I might think about going with a JB3 to replace my little MD deck, but I'll never get rid of this DAT.

Cooker · « **Reply #4 on:** April 12, 2004, 07:34:22 PM »

best small portable, IMO of course, period.
i've had a D7, D8, M1 and used a casio DA-7 and i truly love the M1
if you are not going to be using the A/D, there's no real reason not to get a D100 instead and save some money.

Brian Skalinder · « **Reply #5 on:** April 12, 2004, 07:49:35 PM »

Quote from: cooker on April 12, 2004, 07:34:22 PM

if you are not going to be using the A/D, there's no real reason not to get a D100 instead and save some money.

So...if he is going to use the ADC, get the M1 instead of the D100? Why's that?

nic · « **Reply #6 on:** April 12, 2004, 07:54:58 PM »

the D100 and the M1 are the exact same except the M1 has defeatable SCMS

nickgregory · « **Reply #7 on:** April 12, 2004, 08:10:03 PM »

they are the same decks except as stated above, the M1 is a professional grade deck, and thus no SCMS...the A/D stages are not different at all. IMHO, the D100 is actually a better value if you can get it new because of the LCD remote, which rocks for stealthing.

nic · « **Reply #8 on:** April 12, 2004, 08:14:32 PM »

now that I think about it, I think that Cooker was referring to the SCMS of the M1.
if running line-in, then you can defeat the SCMS with the M1, but not with the D100, therefore the M1 would "technically" be the better deck in this situation...unless of course you dont care about SCMS

nickgregory · « **Reply #9 on:** April 12, 2004, 08:20:20 PM »

My understanding of SCMS is that it only matters if you are trying to spin another dat in a machine that does enforces SCMS. In my history, I have spun several DATs D100 out to R300, and R300 digi out to my Audiophile 2496...never had a SCMS violation...

nic · « **Reply #10 on:** April 12, 2004, 08:32:44 PM »

fwiw, the Audiophile 2496 automatically strips the SCMS code

leegeddy · « **Reply #11 on:** April 12, 2004, 08:45:58 PM »

Quote from: luvean on April 12, 2004, 08:14:32 PM

now that I think about it, I think that Cooker was referring to the SCMS of the M1.
if running line-in, then you can defeat the SCMS with the M1, but not with the D100, therefore the M1 would "technically" be the better deck in this situation...unless of course you dont care about SCMS

you can always make a digital clone from a D100 master on a consumer deck. on pro-decks, you can ignore SCMS.

marc

nickgregory · « **Reply #12 on:** April 12, 2004, 08:46:15 PM »

Quote from: luvean on April 12, 2004, 08:32:44 PM

fwiw, the Audiophile 2496 automatically strips the SCMS code

I believe that is the key if memory serves...if the machine receiving the digital input enforces SCMS and there is a SCMS violation on the tape it is a problem....I dont believe that home decks or most sound cards have that problem...I could be wrong though...happens at times

Sean Gallemore · « **Reply #13 on:** April 13, 2004, 03:37:15 AM »

I can't use a remote on my M1? it has the plug for it....

leegeddy · « **Reply #14 on:** April 13, 2004, 03:40:51 AM »

Quote from: Schwillster on April 13, 2004, 03:37:15 AM

I can't use a remote on my M1? it has the plug for it....

schwilster;

you can, but the US models wasn't supplied with the remote. i've seen the European models with the same remote, but in black.

marc

Sean Gallemore · « **Reply #15 on:** April 13, 2004, 04:05:51 AM »

ahhh, so I have to get a frenchie remote else it'll be silver

nickgregory · « **Reply #16 on:** April 13, 2004, 08:47:11 AM »

you can use the D100 remote with a M1....a buddy has borrowed mine to use with his M1 and it has worked great....American Digital used to sell the remote stand alone...not sure they do anymore...every now and then one shows up on ebay though....

George · « **Reply #17 on:** April 13, 2004, 02:38:54 PM »

Partsolver has the remote listed, but it aint cheap.

edit: http://www.partsolver.com/Product.asp?InventoryID=799270&SubstitutePart=0&ModelManufacturer=Sony&ModelNumber=PCM-M1&ModelID=24985&OrgPartNum=&OrgPartMfg=Sony

I've been thinking of buying it just for stealth's sake...maybe i'll finally take the deep pocket plunge... $:-\$

leegeddy · « **Reply #18 on:** April 13, 2004, 06:19:51 PM »

Quote from: Schwillster on April 13, 2004, 04:05:51 AM

ahhh, so I have to get a frenchie remote else it'll be silver

perhaps mr. lenz will sell you a silver one spray painted black!

marc

Sean Gallemore · « **Reply #19 on:** April 14, 2004, 01:17:10 PM »

GAhHOUIH(*@&*Z(*$&@309!!!!

Brian · « **Reply #20 on:** April 14, 2004, 07:16:08 PM »

hey i just found out the other day that d100/m1 remote's casing can be taking apart so you can access buttons so when you push them your remote will display any errors that occur during the recording, specifically dropouts and if they were interpolated. check it out if you haven't yet. an excellent indicator if your deck is beginning to go bad.

Brian

C.Clark · « **Reply #21 on:** April 14, 2004, 11:46:45 PM »

any kind of description about these buttons, i love to use my remote, but dont want to fuck anything up

Brian · « **Reply #22 on:** April 15, 2004, 12:40:34 AM »

supposedly the top face of the remote can come off and underneath the display are where the buttons are. I haven't actually seen it but i was told by somebody who has one just the other day that they are there.

can anybody else here confirm this? if so i might want to get one. although that $123 price tag from the link above doesn't seem to enticing at the moment.

Brian

Brian · « **Reply #23 on:** April 16, 2004, 01:30:48 PM »

^^^^^^^^^

can anybody here confirm or deny this. i was told this by one of my audio professors who used to own an M1

Brian

Brian Skalinder · « **Reply #24 on:** April 16, 2004, 02:05:31 PM »

Quote from: S_TL-Taper on April 16, 2004, 01:30:48 PM

can anybody here confirm or deny this. i was told this by one of my audio professors who used to own an M1

Just cracked mine open here at work. Pic attached. Everything I can see looks like it relates directly to the buttons on the external casing.

Brian · « **Reply #25 on:** April 16, 2004, 03:46:46 PM »

interesting. maybe my teacher is wrong. i'd like to not think so as he said he has used it. Brian, thanks for posting the pic +t. I'll print it out and show it to my teacher on tuesday and get back to everybody.

what about the black "button looking" thing i have circled?