Author Topic: AT2022 X/Y Stereo Microphone (Read 11270 times)

Ozpeter · « **on:** January 15, 2011, 10:01:30 PM »

A search didn't throw up mention here of this handy looking device.

http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/wired_mics/a2c67abf775c91bf/index.html

Audio-Technica’s AT2022 X/Y Stereo Condenser Microphone will be available March 2011 with a U.S. MSRP of $439.00.

12milluz · « **Reply #1 on:** January 15, 2011, 10:49:47 PM »

Looks pretty cool, I might pick one up when they come out.

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #2 on:** January 17, 2011, 12:20:27 AM »

Pretty badass

DSatz · « **Reply #3 on:** January 17, 2011, 05:57:48 PM »

I've probably already posted this same basic observation a few too many times already, but:

Let's assume that the capsules in this mike are good-sounding to begin with--and that's entirely possible IMO; A-T has a world-class technical department. In that case, if you're going to use X/Y cardioids for stereo music recording, then a microphone like this, with small, single-diaphragm capsules, is FAR preferable to the type of stereo microphone that has electrically switchable patterns (or that uses dual-diaphragm capsules even if they're cardioid-only).

The character of the low-frequency pickup is categorically different between the two types of microphone. Especially if you play back the result on good headphones or on full-range loudspeakers (as opposed to the abomination that is a "combined subwoofer"), the difference in the spaciousness of the recording can be quite large.

--best regards

illconditioned · « **Reply #4 on:** January 17, 2011, 06:03:20 PM »

^^ I actually prefer near-coincident methods. So, I took an AT822 mic and removed the capsules. I did a 4.7k mod on them and run with plug-in-power on Edirol R09 or Sony PCM-D50/M10. They sound very good in (approximate) DIN or ORTF configuration.

But, if you want coincident, this looks like a good mic.

Richard

ashevillain · « **Reply #5 on:** January 17, 2011, 06:20:49 PM »

Pretty sure that's the same one A-T was selling in Japan as the AT9943
(as seen in this thread http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=133153.msg1744930#msg1744930 )

Shortly after that thread was posted I emailed Soundprofessionals to see if they could get it...I think they contacted A-T about it who then realized they could be selling this microphone to the US market. (now if they'd just listen to my requests for them to produce some "active" cables for the 405x series!)

ArchivalAudio · « **Reply #6 on:** January 17, 2011, 08:36:14 PM »

pretty cool
self powered and movable caps.
looks like a decent all-in-one XY mic.
let's see what they hit the streets for.
--Ian

carpa · « **Reply #7 on:** January 18, 2011, 02:34:54 AM »

Sounds a bit strange that it's only got the battery powered option and the 3,5 stereo output, since other competitors of this mic (rode nt4, shure vp88 and AT8022 itself) offer both the possibilities phantom/battery and balanced/unbalanced....
These feature in my opinion provide much more flexibility in using it as an on-the fly mic but at the same time allowing a different field or studio use.

let's see...

sunjan · « **Reply #8 on:** January 18, 2011, 03:50:59 AM »

With one single 1.5V battery, will this mic really be of any use in a concert setting? Makes me wonder about SPL handling, and how strong signal it will output.

Street price for the AT9943 in Japan is equiv. to USD 260, according to kakaku.com.
IIUC, the JAP version ships with an additional breakout cable for dual mono output.

Javier Cinakowski · « **Reply #9 on:** January 18, 2011, 01:04:12 PM »

Dsatz, I understand your point about SDC having more accurate response throughout the polar pattern of the mic.

I currently use AT's AT4050st. Its dual diaphragm design. However, AT' s main marketing point about this mic us that it maintains its polar patern throughout the entire frequency range. This is often a big criticisim if this type of mic. Do you have any insight how AT might have avoided this characteristic in a dual diaphram design?

carpa · « **Reply #10 on:** January 18, 2011, 05:55:07 PM »

Once I had a Sony ECM 979, a no longer made m-s stereo microphone. It was powered by a 1,5 v battery with no other powering options, but it had xlr terminated cable.
Never had overload issues, but I only used it for classical non-amplified music.

As I've told in a previous post, I'm surprised that this new 2022 doesn't come with a phantom option; as for the 1,5 battery, I notice that also the AT 8022 and the previous AT825 had the same battery when not phantom powered.

soundpro · « **Reply #11 on:** January 22, 2011, 11:19:53 PM »

Hello:

We are now taking pre-orders for this mic. MSRP is $439.00, Street price is $249.00. We worked a deal with AT on these so that we could offer the Tapers a deal on them. So, the first 50 takers get an extra $50 off the price with this coupon code (but no other discount can be taken, folks):

"at2022"

http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/AT2022

and this special ends when 50 are sold, or Jan 31st, 2011, whichever comes first.

Please remember that this deal can not be combined with any other discount or promotion.

Thanks!

If you have any questions, please let me know.

Best Regards,

Chris Carfagno
sales@soundprofessionals.com
www.soundprofessionals.com
The Sound Professionals, Inc.
3444 Sylon Blvd
Hainesport NJ, 08036
800-213-3021
609-267-4400
609-267-0054 fax

ArchivalAudio · « **Reply #12 on:** January 23, 2011, 01:27:44 AM »

^^^^^ Chris that's a sweet deal for these mics
I wish I had an extra $200 to pick one up.

--Ian

yltfan · « **Reply #13 on:** January 23, 2011, 02:54:07 AM »

Are there specs available anywhere?
Max SPL? Frequency?

sunjan · « **Reply #14 on:** January 23, 2011, 06:04:24 AM »

Quote from: soundpro on January 22, 2011, 11:19:53 PM

MSRP is $439.00, Street price is $249.00. We worked a deal with AT on these so that we could offer the Tapers a deal on them. So, the first 50 takers get an extra $50 off the price with this coupon code

Wow, that's some serious rebate! Way to go, Soundpro.

Detailed specs doesn't seem to have been published yet. Found some data on the AT9943, but nothing about SPL handling:
http://www.audio-technica.com.hk/index.php?op=productdetails&pid=505&lang=eng

User AxFixer on the Zoom forums was supposed to test this mic, maybe he posted the results somewhere?
http://2090.org/zoom/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=14564&start=0

carpa · « **Reply #15 on:** January 23, 2011, 05:18:39 PM »

I was just wondering wether the signal comes balanced or unbalanced out of the mic in order to purchase a cable terminated into two mono xlr outs. So the mic could be used with the supplied minijack when directly plugged into a pocket recorder, or with xlr's when coupled to a littlebox or other preamp.

I also looked at the specs posted by Sunjan about the 9943 which is probably the Asian version of this new 2022; the only difference which comes into mind is that the 9943 comes out with a 5pin output while the 2022 is three pin. Don't know exactly the difference but somebody may be interested.

I'm just wondering what this mic will stand up in a comparison with AT8022.

12milluz · « **Reply #16 on:** January 23, 2011, 09:37:40 PM »

Quote from: carpa on January 23, 2011, 05:18:39 PM

I was just wondering wether the signal comes balanced or unbalanced out of the mic in order to purchase a cable terminated into two mono xlr outs. So the mic could be used with the supplied minijack when directly plugged into a pocket recorder, or with xlr's when coupled to a littlebox or other preamp.

I also looked at the specs posted by Sunjan about the 9943 which is probably the Asian version of this new 2022; the only difference which comes into mind is that the 9943 comes out with a 5pin output while the 2022 is three pin. Don't know exactly the difference but somebody may be interested.

I'm just wondering what this mic will stand up in a comparison with AT8022.

It's unbalanced. It is impossible for it to be balanced as three pins are needed for a balanced line for each channel. That is why the other one has a 5 pin. That is balanced(the ground is shared in the fifth pin for both channels). On this one, it is not wired like a regular XLR out on a microphone- one pin is left, one is right, and the other is ground.

carpa · « **Reply #17 on:** January 31, 2011, 03:39:30 AM »

It seems like there are quite a bit of stereo mics on the market, but there's a little confusion in my head, expecially for what concerns Audio-technica.

First there was AT 822 and 825 (the second came with both phantom and battery option)- specs said about 30-20.000 htz

Then they were recently replaced by AT 8022 (phantom and battery) - specs about 20 - 15.000!!

Now the new 2022 (battery only) - no specs by now but it's Jap "brother" claims a wider respons compared to AT8022, more similar to the old 825

First question: Do the recent AT8022 and the brand new AT 2022 look like equivalent products or they are intended for a different use?

Second question (mistery gets thicker...): AT825 is non longer made, but there are at least two products ( Fostex mc11 and Tascam stpro) which are available and look identical to the old Audio-Technica both in their look and in the specs.....seems like it's the same mic re-branded.

Assuming this being true I wonder which one would be the best buy to use with portable recorders...

Third and last question: Being powered with only a 1.5v battery can tell us something about expected performance, comparing this to other mics like Rode nt4 which need 9v to run?

thanks a lot for any help

dogmusic · « **Reply #18 on:** January 31, 2011, 08:00:19 AM »

Quote from: carpa on January 31, 2011, 03:39:30 AM

It seems like there are quite a bit of stereo mics on the market, but there's a little confusion in my head, expecially for what concerns Audio-technica.

First there was AT 822 and 825 (the second came with both phantom and battery option)- specs said about 30-20.000 htz

Then they were recently replaced by AT 8022 (phantom and battery) - specs about 20 - 15.000!!

Now the new 2022 (battery only) - no specs by now but it's Jap "brother" claims a wider respons compared to AT8022, more similar to the old 825

First question: Do the recent AT8022 and the brand new AT 2022 look like equivalent products or they are intended for a different use?

Second question (mistery gets thicker...): AT825 is non longer made, but there are at least two products ( Fostex mc11 and Tascam stpro) which are available and look identical to the old Audio-Technica both in their look and in the specs.....seems like it's the same mic re-branded.

Assuming this being true I wonder which one would be the best buy to use with portable recorders...

Third and last question: Being powered with only a 1.5v battery can tell us something about expected performance, comparing this to other mics like Rode nt4 which need 9v to run?

thanks a lot for any help

There's also the Audio Technica BP4025, a stereo mic with a 5-pin balanced connector. Phantom power only.

carpa · « **Reply #19 on:** January 31, 2011, 05:40:06 PM »

I know this, but I mentioned only mics with only battery power or with battery + phantom option

NOLAfishwater · « **Reply #20 on:** February 01, 2011, 10:51:41 AM »

anybody know the pin assignment for this cable. It is definitely 3 pin xlr out and I want it terminated to a stereo mini cable.

dogmusic · « **Reply #21 on:** February 01, 2011, 06:11:55 PM »

Quote from: carpa on January 31, 2011, 05:40:06 PM

I know this, but I mentioned only mics with only battery power or with battery + phantom option

The information wasn't particularly for you.