Topic: Schoeps CCM41 or Schoeps MK41 for new set up

[bluntforcetrauma]

I was wondering what people thought of the two following set ups.  I would be open and stealth recording.  The VST62 gives me more options down the road, but

How is the kcy active Y cable to stealth?  When does the "Y" start how long?
is the kcy cable the same texture as mic cable (flexible)?


LINEAGE: Schoeps CCM41>Denecke PS2>Hosa MIT-176*>Hosa RCA  to minijack> Edirol r-09
LINEAGE: Schoeps MK41>kcy active Y cable>Ks 51 extension( if needed)> VST62> denecke PS2**> edirol r-09

AK SU/2U- i know I would need this with the MK41 set up to the denecke.


The reason i show the Denecke PS2 and HOSA is because I use them with my DPA 4022's

just looking for people's suggestions on

The MK41 looks like it will be simplier as it decreases the adapters after the denecke ( maybe I just talked myself into this one)

please advise

[Tim]

since you already have very nice cards and won't need the flexibility of adding mk4's at a later date I would definitely go with the ccm41's.

[gewwang]

I advise you to put the money into a preamp and just make sure you always have good seats where you can run your 4022s.

[pjdavep]

Why are you wanting the 41's?  Is it for a hypercard pattern or because you want a different sound?

Instead of going PS-2 to all that chain of Hosa stuff, I bet you'd get a pretty good sound upgrade with a Sonosax or Aerco and it would be a third of the price.

Later,
   pjdavep

[orechall]

I advise you to put the money into a preamp and just make sure you always have good seats where you can run your 4022s.

couldnt have said it better myself

[Craig T]

how about mk41> Nbox+> r09?  seems like a better solution to me.  Nick can make a 'split' or a 'Y' cable from the Nbox> collettes.

[bluntforcetrauma]

I advise you to put the money into a preamp and just make sure you always have good seats where you can run your 4022s.

Yeah I always try to get great seats, but i wanted another option.

Dont kill me, but i am not an engineer, but does a preamp make that much difference in sound.

I like my DPA 4022 and i probably stealth much more than i Open tape.  I just dont like all that DPA 4022 mic cable.  I know i could get the 4023 but its the same pattern.

i was just looking for a warmer sound and a hyper pattern and i thought the 41's would do that.

Preamp suggestions

[bluntforcetrauma]

Why are you wanting the 41's?  Is it for a hypercard pattern or because you want a different sound?

Instead of going PS-2 to all that chain of Hosa stuff, I bet you'd get a pretty good sound upgrade with a Sonosax or Aerco and it would be a third of the price.

Later,
   pjdavep

Would a preamp make THAT much difference in sound.  I am looking for less STUFF to take in.  Cant I make up for a lack of a preamp with post production since i use pro tools and Waves ultramaximizer plug ins

S.O.S

[bluntforcetrauma]

or so i sell my DPA 4022's and go for 4023's since they have lemmo and i can change out mic cables.

I thought go 41's also because it is a different sound plus i can get different mic cable lengths for open or stealthing.  This way going with schoeps i feel like i am not repeating myself by getting another set of cards?

[edtyre]

Why not an Aerco, Nbox+ and MK41's ?

Stealth with both DPA and Schoeps for 6-700 less
than an Aerco and CCM41's and have the ability to
run other caps.

Love my Nbox+ and MK41's 

[gewwang]

or so i sell my DPA 4022's and go for 4023's since they have lemmo and i can change out mic cables.

I thought go 41's also because it is a different sound plus i can get different mic cable lengths for open or stealthing.  This way going with schoeps i feel like i am not repeating myself by getting another set of cards?

You can go from 4022s to 4023s but the cables are still going to be fragile and expensive to fix when they eventually fail.

If you want a different sound, you should look into subcards before you look into hypercards. The DPA and Schoeps subcards both make amazing tapes and the only cases where I'd consider running hypers instead of cards is when I'm further away than the sweet spot and who wants to sit way back there:)

[bluntforcetrauma]

or so i sell my DPA 4022's and go for 4023's since they have lemmo and i can change out mic cables.

I thought go 41's also because it is a different sound plus i can get different mic cable lengths for open or stealthing.  This way going with schoeps i feel like i am not repeating myself by getting another set of cards?

You can go from 4022s to 4023s but the cables are still going to be fragile and expensive to fix when they eventually fail.

If you want a different sound, you should look into subcards before you look into hypercards. The DPA and Schoeps subcards both make amazing tapes and the only cases where I'd consider running hypers instead of cards is when I'm further away than the sweet spot and who wants to sit way back there:)

what is the model type on the subcards--schoeps and DPA

It is getting expensive to sit in the sweet spot,  and i am stack taping alot, it just seems to be getting more of a challenge these days to get the good seats.

also i thought the 4023 with the lemmo and a shorter mic cable would be much easier to handle to stealth?

Just taht 5m of mic calbe is bulky to roll for stealth

[H₂O]

Schoeps Subs are:   mk21's or CCM21's
DPA's sub miniatures are: 4026's, 4027's, or 4028's

[bluntforcetrauma]

Schoeps Subs are:   mk21's or CCM21's
DPA's sub miniatures are: 4026's, 4027's, or 4028's

would people recommend the pattern of the 21's or 4028's to the 41's?

is it a warmer sound

[bluntforcetrauma]

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