Topic: The AKG Actives Project

[ts]

I've never heard the direct comparison recordings either. I have an idea in my head what the differences are, but it would be nice to hear a valid comparison.

For that matter it would be interesting to hear the differences between ToddR's 480 active set-up and my full bodied 480's.
Has a comp like that ever been done?

ToodR does NOT have an active 480 setup.  He has an active ck6x setup.  Big difference.    FWIW, I believe the JW mods bring the speed of the 460's up close to the 480's.  I am biased and still prefer the 480 bodies but different ears hear diferent things.

Does anyone have a 480 active setup? I always thought they were CK6x active setups.

[thegreatgumbino]

I've never heard the direct comparison recordings either. I have an idea in my head what the differences are, but it would be nice to hear a valid comparison.

For that matter it would be interesting to hear the differences between ToddR's 480 active set-up and my full bodied 480's.
Has a comp like that ever been done?

ToodR does NOT have an active 480 setup.  He has an active ck6x setup.  Big difference.    FWIW, I believe the JW mods bring the speed of the 460's up close to the 480's.  I am biased and still prefer the 480 bodies but different ears hear diferent things.

Does anyone have a 480 active setup? I always thought they were CK6x active setups.

No AKG 480 active setup exists.  The JK Labs DVC box that ToddR & a few others have uses the ck6_ caps, but the box replaces the bodies.

[ts]

Too bad leegeddy is gone. I remember at one time he was thinking about using the A61 swivels in an attempt to have a true 480 active setup.

[grider]

I actually hadn't thought of it that way. I know the 460 bodies are transformer coupled, so they do sound different than the 480 bodies. I've never heard a direct comparison.

hmm, this has gotten me thinking, I think I will run my ck1xcap into my mk46 active cables into my stock 460 bodies for one set and into my 480 bodies for the second set, sometime soon, and then torrent the recording, I see no reason why I could not do so, might be illuminating, could do so next week for that Toad the Wet Sprocket show

[ts]

I actually hadn't thought of it that way. I know the 460 bodies are transformer coupled, so they do sound different than the 480 bodies. I've never heard a direct comparison.

hmm, this has gotten me thinking, I think I will run my ck1xcap into my mk46 active cables into my stock 460 bodies for one set and into my 480 bodies for the second set, sometime soon, and then torrent the recording, I see no reason why I could not do so, might be illuminating, could do so next week for that Toad the Wet Sprocket show

I don't think the MK46 cables work on 480's.

[jeromejello]

I actually hadn't thought of it that way. I know the 460 bodies are transformer coupled, so they do sound different than the 480 bodies. I've never heard a direct comparison.

hmm, this has gotten me thinking, I think I will run my ck1xcap into my mk46 active cables into my stock 460 bodies for one set and into my 480 bodies for the second set, sometime soon, and then torrent the recording, I see no reason why I could not do so, might be illuminating, could do so next week for that Toad the Wet Sprocket show

I don't think the MK46 cables work on 480's.

 you are right... only the 460s due to an extra contact that is not existant in the 480 body

[grider]

I actually hadn't thought of it that way. I know the 460 bodies are transformer coupled, so they do sound different than the 480 bodies. I've never heard a direct comparison.

hmm, this has gotten me thinking, I think I will run my ck1xcap into my mk46 active cables into my stock 460 bodies for one set and into my 480 bodies for the second set, sometime soon, and then torrent the recording, I see no reason why I could not do so, might be illuminating, could do so next week for that Toad the Wet Sprocket show

I don't think the MK46 cables work on 480's.

 you are right... only the 460s due to an extra contact that is not existant in the 480 body

the fact that I did not know this means that I need to tape more  , speaking of which I will be taping Del McCoury Band tomorrow and on Saturday too for the Bean Blossom Bluegrass Festival, and perhaps TTWS next week, that will jump start things a bit

[johnw]

I actually hadn't thought of it that way. I know the 460 bodies are transformer coupled, so they do sound different than the 480 bodies. I've never heard a direct comparison.

hmm, this has gotten me thinking, I think I will run my ck1xcap into my mk46 active cables into my stock 460 bodies for one set and into my 480 bodies for the second set, sometime soon, and then torrent the recording, I see no reason why I could not do so, might be illuminating, could do so next week for that Toad the Wet Sprocket show

I don't think the MK46 cables work on 480's.

 you are right... only the 460s due to an extra contact that is not existant in the 480 body

the fact that I did not know this means that I need to tape more  , speaking of which I will be taping Del McCoury Band tomorrow and on Saturday too for the Bean Blossom Bluegrass Festival, and perhaps TTWS next week, that will jump start things a bit

Since the 1x caps won't work with the 480s, maybe do a ck1x vs ck61 comparison on the 460s?

[grider]

yes, that would be simple enough to do

[jdawg]

Does anybody have the flac files from that JWmod460 vs. 480 vs. 460 comparison done by gumbino a while back? I'm trying to decide if I should send my 460s into to JW for the mod, or sell 'em and get 480s... will be running into an mp-2 for now, and then likely an ACM 671 later this summer... shoot me a PM if you can help me with the comparison...

I'm a little behind in this thread, but I have this on the hard drive if you still need it.   Let me know.

[thegreatgumbino]

Does anybody have the flac files from that JWmod460 vs. 480 vs. 460 comparison done by gumbino a while back? I'm trying to decide if I should send my 460s into to JW for the mod, or sell 'em and get 480s... will be running into an mp-2 for now, and then likely an ACM 671 later this summer... shoot me a PM if you can help me with the comparison...

I'm a little behind in this thread, but I have this on the hard drive if you still need it.   Let me know.

Shoot Terrapinj a PM.  He's going to upload it to Tapers.org.  Maybe you can get it to him via ftp.  I've been trying to get it to him, but been slacking off.  I have a cd ready to mail to him, but haven't made it to the post office yet.  Thanks for the offer.  +T

[poorlyconditioned]

OK, nothing much happening I guess.

So, I just ordered a pair of CK63's to play with.

I expect one week or so delivery then I'll start messing with them.

Time to break out the hot melt glue and duct tape.  And a few FETs and 1GOhm resistors for good measure...

  Richard

[johnw]

OK, nothing much happening I guess.

So, I just ordered a pair of CK63's to play with.

I expect one week or so delivery then I'll start messing with them.

Time to break out the hot melt glue and duct tape.  And a few FETs and 1GOhm resistors for good measure...

  Richard

Richard - you are the man. +T

[poorlyconditioned]

OK, nothing much happening I guess.

So, I just ordered a pair of CK63's to play with.

I expect one week or so delivery then I'll start messing with them.

Time to break out the hot melt glue and duct tape.  And a few FETs and 1GOhm resistors for good measure...

  Richard

Richard - you are the man. +T

Oh yeah, if anyone has "collettes" for these, please send me a PM.  Someone had machined a set.  I sent an Email, but I'm not sure if these are still available.  Or, if they take a standard thread I might find in a hardware store (unlikely, but possible), please let me know.

Mechanical problems are the biggest issues for me.  I can deal with the electronics stuff.

  Richard

[poorlyconditioned]

Hi there.  I finally ordered a set of CK63 caps and built a crude prototype.

Shown below: six (!) 9V batteries in series for the polarization voltage, two FETs, two 1Gohm (!) resistors, and other various parts.  I have not done extensive testing, but it "appears" to work, that is, I can speak into the mic and hear myself clearly.

So, if anyone has the collettes, I'd like to get a pair.  Otherwise I'll have to do something messy with copper screen, foil tape, etc.

Thanks,
 Richard