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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: Nick Culbreth on March 10, 2003, 10:45:36 PM
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just picked up a set, now i'm looking for some advice on the mic configuration. anyone have any success w/ din, ortf, nos. thanks in advance.
nick
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Every time I think I have seen these setup was either in xy or ortf, usually ortf. I would say try em all out and see what you think!
Daryan
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DIN, see Carl Beck's tapes for confirmation that these mics are made for DIN 8)
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And that was the third option. I was never a big fan of the 480's until I heard them run DIN. I still think they sound kind of distant to me, but that might just be me! Have fun, and let us know what you find works best for YOU!
Daryan
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Try them all ;D
DIN is my fave for these. As others have said Carl Beck's panic and Mule tapes smoke! Scott Cervin has also turned out some very nice tapes running them DIN as well.
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now all i need to do is get rid of the crappy sambrasom t-bar and replace it w/ something functional. :)
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Try the shure vert bar. It worked well for me when I ran 480s. Remember that vertical displacement isn't as critical as horizontal separation and angle.
Enjoy!
-William
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I'm in favor of DIN but xy in a shitty room. Go to a few shows that you are there to learn from (or make sure you have a second source avail.) and try different configs at each set.
listen and learn
have fun
jah
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got them in today and tried to screw w/ different configurations and my first thought is damn, they are a whole lot bigger than my mc012s. the sambrasom is officially useless. :)
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Why not complement your AKG's with an AKG tbar. Perfect for DIN and just about everything else, EXCEPT xy (unless you have it modded ;)).
Kevin
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Kev,
you should be able to do XY with the AKG bar. you need to run one mic on top of the bar/ one mic under the bar.
and D.
get the Shure Vertical bar (A27m). and a pair of AT shockmounts (AT-8410). too bad this didn't come up earlier, i just sold all three of these parts last month as i never use them anymore. :-\
~S
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Hey guys. I got a free pair of the gefell ea 20 shocks which look quite solid. Any info on these?
Daryan
Anyone got a vertical bar for sale?
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Your right Scott, my bad. I'm also new to the fact that vertical spacing does'nt make much of a difference. :)
Kevin
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while i'm getting a new t-bar might as well get some shockmounts.... any suggestions. i've heard at shockmounts are pretty nice, which model is better. thanks for all the advice. ;D
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backtrack 3 posts for a small clue... :-X
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at8410a's are the most popular shock mounts. They should be around $100/pair new
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ive run the ck61 caps NOS for years on and off...works great...but you know, you run your mics based on the situation you are presented with...
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I have run DIN for a few years now with my 480's & have to say it is the best config for 480's IMO. I used to run them XY with Danny doing sound for WSP & was never pleased. As I started experimenting I tried DIN based on J. Elderidges advice, once I tried it I was hooked. I use 90 degree's 17cm for hypers & 8 inches for cards. I use it everywhere & don't even bother with other configs anymore. It doesn't matter if it's in the section, FOB, indoors or outdoors. This works for me. Try NOS, ORTF, XY or PAS if you like, then you'll be able to learn & use your own judgement to what sounds best for your ears.
carl
PS- onstage, I'll run XY sometimes to tighten up the image, good luck!
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i used to run the 481's ORTF but switched to DIN and am also HOOKED....couldn't agree with carl anymore.....i also have used it in the section, indoors, outdoors, up close....best seperation of channels and GREAT stereo imaging......couldn't be anymore pleased with the results... ;D
bean
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Just currious. What does the DIN setup look like(I also just got some 480/ck61's, so I'm currious as well)
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DIN is almost like reverse X/Y... check out this from the archival section...
http://www.taperssection.com/yabbse/index.php?board=14;action=display;threadid=849