Author Topic: Couple of Neumann Questions... (Read 8000 times)

Nick Graham · « **on:** September 15, 2004, 11:30:20 AM »

Anybody know if you can buy a seperate X/Y bar without purchasing the whole KM140 set? One of the clips fell off, the washer was lost, and I can't find any piece that will come close to fitting as a replacement. I really only need one half of the bar. Can you order direct from Neumann?

Also, anybody know if the km100 bodies will fit in the Schoeps A20s mounts? I've got one A20s to use for the Neumann active bar...but would like to order a second one to use when running full bodies. Since I'm at work and my rig's at home...the DIY method won't work.

+T for anyone who can help....

Nick Culbreth · « **Reply #1 on:** September 15, 2004, 11:53:31 AM »

you should be able to order a replacement part through any dealer, but unfortunately you'll pay a pretty hefty price for it.

Lil Kim Jong-Il · « **Reply #2 on:** September 15, 2004, 12:40:08 PM »

I was missing a small piece and I called the neuman support number and asked for parts. They got me what I needed. They were very cool.

silentmark · « **Reply #3 on:** September 22, 2004, 08:25:16 AM »

Quote from: Nick Graham on September 15, 2004, 11:30:20 AM

Also, anybody know if the km100 bodies will fit in the Schoeps A20s mounts? I've got one A20s to use for the Neumann active bar...but would like to order a second one to use when running full bodies. Since I'm at work and my rig's at home...the DIY method won't work.

+T for anyone who can help....

From what I understand the A20, should work. I am assuming you got a Kwon bar ? Are these finally available for purchase from Cascade?

Nick Graham · « **Reply #4 on:** September 22, 2004, 05:33:58 PM »

Unfortunately no....still waiting for that Kwon bar to be available. Right now for DIN I'm still using Joe W's ghetto XY/ORTF combo.

Kwonfidelity · « **Reply #5 on:** September 29, 2004, 01:59:33 PM »

Hey guys...final samples of the kwonbars are going out to Joe for final testing. Once he gives me the go ahead stock will be sent to Frank @ Cascade.

Robert

Nick Graham · « **Reply #6 on:** September 29, 2004, 02:02:14 PM »

Quote from: Kwonfidelity on September 29, 2004, 01:59:33 PM

Hey guys...final samples of the kwonbars are going out to Joe for final testing. Once he gives me the go ahead stock will be sent to Frank @ Cascade.

Robert

Excellent! +T and thanks for the update...

silentmark · « **Reply #7 on:** September 29, 2004, 02:45:11 PM »

Right on ! +T

JAH · « **Reply #8 on:** September 29, 2004, 03:15:29 PM »

Quote from: silentmark on September 22, 2004, 08:25:16 AM

Quote from: Nick Graham on September 15, 2004, 11:30:20 AM
Also, anybody know if the km100 bodies will fit in the Schoeps A20s mounts? I've got one A20s to use for the Neumann active bar...but would like to order a second one to use when running full bodies. Since I'm at work and my rig's at home...the DIY method won't work.

+T for anyone who can help....

From what I understand the A20, should work. I am assuming you got a Kwon bar ? Are these finally available for purchase from Cascade?

The km-100 is a little bigger than the schoeps mounts...it's REAL tight! I snapped one of my clips when trying to run a true DIN w/ 2 separate a20-s mounts..hs worked other times...so once it broke went back to the getto din w/ the a20s as the shock for the whole rig (as usual). If the plastic is cold...I bet it would break every time. SO hang tight for the kwon bar and use the getto din till then.

peace
jah

Nick Graham · « **Reply #9 on:** September 30, 2004, 04:35:01 PM »

Yeah, after I posted that I got home and tried it...never even fit the body all the way in the mount, looked like it would break with any force at all.

Too bad though, as those Schoeps mounts are super small and lightweight. Much better than the 8410s as far as size goes.

Can't wait for the Kwon Bar! Will it just be a DIN mount, or will we get an ORTF bar as well? All the various pieces of the STH-100 mounts are just so small, and the mic clips come loose really easily...which is the root of my dilemma.

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #10 on:** September 30, 2004, 04:59:43 PM »

anybody have a pic of the kwon bar

im confused, is it for actives or full-bodied mics

John R · « **Reply #11 on:** September 30, 2004, 05:08:07 PM »

not to detrack from the kwon bar, but wouldn't thiis do the job also? dpa 4022=19mm km140=22mm diameter

http://www.lydsystemer.no/nyheter/dpa_cxo4000.htm

jr

Nick Culbreth · « **Reply #12 on:** September 30, 2004, 05:32:51 PM »

Quote from: John R on September 30, 2004, 05:08:07 PM

not to detrack from the kwon bar, but wouldn't thiis do the job also? dpa 4022=19mm km140=22mm diameter

http://www.lydsystemer.no/nyheter/dpa_cxo4000.htm

jr

nope, that won't work for the neumanns. the dpas have ridges which keep the caps from sliding around and the neumanns don't.

Nick Graham · « **Reply #13 on:** September 30, 2004, 05:52:02 PM »

Quote from: bean on September 30, 2004, 04:59:43 PM

anybody have a pic of the kwon bar

im confused, is it for actives or full-bodied mics

It's for actives...here's a pic of both the Neumann and Schoeps kwon bars (courtesy of Joe W):

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #14 on:** September 30, 2004, 05:55:04 PM »

which ones are which

are the top ones schepmz(w/ a DINA bar or wide ORTF bar something)

i have no clue, im horribly colorblind and cant really tell in that pic

also, why are all the bars diff lengths

thanks,

bean

Nick Graham · « **Reply #15 on:** September 30, 2004, 06:03:38 PM »

Schoeps (in a kwon ORTF bar) on top, Neumanns in the DIN kwon bar in the middle, and more Schempz DIN at the bottom...

I think the bottom 2 bars are actually the same length, just appear different because of the way they're mounted and the difference in windscreen size. But yeah, that ORTF bar on top is freakin' huge.

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #16 on:** September 30, 2004, 06:41:11 PM »

+T nick, thanks

K.C. · « **Reply #17 on:** September 30, 2004, 06:55:57 PM »

actually, it looks like the bar on top is NOS. if you are willing to spend the money, you can fit the neumann clips in the A20's, and run any config. you want on a t-bar.

Tim · « **Reply #18 on:** September 30, 2004, 08:12:16 PM »

Quote from: K.C. on September 30, 2004, 06:55:57 PM

actually, it looks like the bar on top is NOS.

bingo

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #19 on:** September 30, 2004, 09:08:17 PM »

which means they couldve been mk21's or something similar too huh

Tim · « **Reply #20 on:** September 30, 2004, 09:44:38 PM »

yep, probably the 21's...

K.C. · « **Reply #21 on:** October 08, 2004, 05:04:02 PM »

i tood a few pix of my Neumanns in different congfigurations, using the Neumann clips in the A20 shockmounts:

K.C. · « **Reply #22 on:** October 08, 2004, 05:08:59 PM »

ORTF rearview

K.C. · « **Reply #23 on:** October 08, 2004, 05:09:35 PM »

XY 90deg

K.C. · « **Reply #24 on:** October 08, 2004, 05:11:18 PM »

K.C. · « **Reply #25 on:** October 08, 2004, 05:12:36 PM »

Joe w. · « **Reply #26 on:** October 08, 2004, 07:37:16 PM »

nice pics kc.

the pic that nick posted is boswell's mk21's NOS, then my ak40's DIN and frank sulloway's ccm4's ortf.

reesey · « **Reply #27 on:** October 13, 2004, 05:23:00 PM »

more importantly, who's the hottie in front of the rigs? i dont remember her! i just remember buying drinks for all you drunkards!!!! dag.

oh and nice photos, thats sweet that the neumann mic clip fits in the ak20 and gives you all those tilting options. sweet hole.

JAH · « **Reply #28 on:** October 13, 2004, 07:09:53 PM »

Nice pic....indeed...The ak's will fit into the a20-s but NOT everytime

so I guess once you get them in..leave it in. I saw the NOS bar at Bonnaroo..thought the guy was running DPA subs though...maybe not the same guy...believe he was from CO.

peace
jah

K.C. · « **Reply #29 on:** October 16, 2004, 03:27:36 PM »

actually, those are the Neumann clips inside the A20's. they fit perfect just like the Neumann STH mount.