Topic: CDWav Question

[branas]

Can I edit a split or manually place a split at a particular position?

[RDunn]

CDWave is a great program for splitting up wav files into tracks.... and it works for 16 bit & 24 bit files.  Even better is the fact it splits on sector boundaries...... so no ticks and pops.  And it's a free program.

[pfife]

yes, you can.

[branas]

I guess I figured out how to place the split exactly where I wanted, but now I'm having SB issues. I save the file after I create all my splits and after burning all of the .wav's the tracks are not seamless going from one to the other and I'm burning DAO so there shouldn't be spaces. Any ideas?

[BayTaynt3d]

It's not because of CDWave, that's for sure. What software are you using to burn with? Chances are it's adding the gap...

[Gordon]

It's not because of CDWave, that's for sure. What software are you using to burn with? Chances are it's adding the gap...

qft

[branas]

using Nero 7, I checked the "don't add space between tracks" option. Also, I recorded 24-bit, but I'm saving out of CDwav as 16-bit because I was having trouble with flac properly encoding the 24bit file. I'm burning from the .wav's though so I can leave flac out of the troubleshooting process for now. Any help is appreciated.

[esteyes]

sorry to butt in on this thread, but it seems appropriate for my questions

i record in 24bit with a 671. if i do not pay attention at the show and let the 671 autosplit the file at the 2g limit, i come home with 2 files usually (3 hr shows...a 2g and a 1g from 48/24 recording). so using cd wave is no-brainer for splitting, but...
#1:  how does one join the two files??
#2:  how does one add any fades?? like at beginning or end of shows

i generally use Feurio for all my editing>burning (well, 16bit)... i have samplitude 7.0, but it is so labor intensive to use...i use nero for BTorrent downloads where no editing/tracking is ness

ohh, and the first dozen discs i burned with Nero i forgot to keep checking the "don't add gap" box - in feurio, once checked it stays checked. i have grown to really like feurio

neil

[branas]

nevermind guys, I played the CD in my truck and it works fine, apparently, WinAmp has problems playing CD's without making a pop between tracks.

[JasonSobel]

using Nero 7, I checked the "don't add space between tracks" option. Also, I recorded 24-bit, but I'm saving out of CDwav as 16-bit because I was having trouble with flac properly encoding the 24bit file. I'm burning from the .wav's though so I can leave flac out of the troubleshooting process for now. Any help is appreciated.

after you track out a 24 bit file in CD Wave, when you go to save, you need to check the box that says "Save in alternate 24-bit format"
once you do that, FLAC should have no problem encoding the tracked 24 bit files.

also, CD Wave is a great program for tracking, but probably not the best for converting 24 bit down to 16 bit.  you'd probably be better off doing the conversion in a different program.  do a search, as there are many options for that.

but, even so, you only need to do the actual tracking once.  open up the original 24 bit wave in CD Wave, set the track markers, save the files, and then save the CUE sheet.

then open up the original file in a different program and convert to 16 bit.  then open up the new 16 bit file, load the CUE sheet, and all your track markers will pop in at exactly the same place.  then just save the 16 bit files and you're all set.

[RebelRebel]

Depends on the program....

with samplitude...
open first file...open second file(on top of 1st file)

right click on the 2nd file and go to "range" then click "range all" (this selects the whole track), then "edit" and click "copy". close out the second track(youve already copied it)

go to the end of the 1st track and right click then "paste/insert clip"

the 2nd track will be added on.

Edit/add fades as normal with samplitude..."effects" amplitude/normalize"

sorry to butt in on this thread, but it seems appropriate for my questions

i record in 24bit with a 671. if i do not pay attention at the show and let the 671 autosplit the file at the 2g limit, i come home with 2 files usually (3 hr shows...a 2g and a 1g from 48/24 recording). so using cd wave is no-brainer for splitting, but...
#1:  how does one join the two files??
#2:  how does one add any fades?? like at beginning or end of shows

i generally use Feurio for all my editing>burning (well, 16bit)... i have samplitude 7.0, but it is so labor intensive to use...i use nero for BTorrent downloads where no editing/tracking is ness

ohh, and the first dozen discs i burned with Nero i forgot to keep checking the "don't add gap" box - in feurio, once checked it stays checked. i have grown to really like feurio

neil

[RebelRebel]

for changing bit depth and sample rate, R8 brain is a program that gets good reviews.(freeware)

http://www.voxengo.com/product/r8brain/

span looks nice too...

http://www.voxengo.com/product/SPAN/

[Gordon]

nevermind guys, I played the CD in my truck and it works fine, apparently, WinAmp has problems playing CD's without making a pop between tracks.

yep.  winamp put's gaps in there.  use foobar.  it rocks.  seemless flac and shn playback on the computer.

[F.O.Bean]

nevermind guys, I played the CD in my truck and it works fine, apparently, WinAmp has problems playing CD's without making a pop between tracks.

yep.  winamp put's gaps in there.  use foobar.  it rocks.  seemless flac and shn playback on the computer.

qft, to get the flac/shn plugins for foobar, just search google for 'flac plugin for foobar 2000'

[esteyes]

THANK Teddy for the guidance 

neil in san marcos

[RebelRebel]

THANK Teddy for the guidance 

neil in san marcos

No problem.I lovesamplitude... If youve got samplitude, you dont really need anything else. It is one of the best pc mastering/recording solutions out there. Only step up would be sequoia, its big brother . (I hope to get it soon)

[F.O.Bean]

THANK Teddy for the guidance 

neil in san marcos

No problem.I lovesamplitude... If youve got samplitude, you dont really need anything else. It is one of the best pc mastering/recording solutions out there. Only step up would be sequoia, its big brother . (I hope to get it soon)

teddy-dont you think its kinda clunky and slow compared to wavelab and even soundforge tho?

i have used it in the past, I think i used studio and master 6.0

[RebelRebel]

Not at all. It does use more system resources(it is a more powerful interface) but if you have enough RAM, I would reccomend Samp. over any of those. It especially shines in multi-track mixing and editing. It has a bit of a learning curve, but well worth it , IMHO. After I get familiar with this one, I plan to grab sequoia v8. The guy that designs it is an audioengineer , so he really has the best interests of the audio community in mind.

THANK Teddy for the guidance 

neil in san marcos

No problem.I lovesamplitude... If youve got samplitude, you dont really need anything else. It is one of the best pc mastering/recording solutions out there. Only step up would be sequoia, its big brother . (I hope to get it soon)

teddy-dont you think its kinda clunky and slow compared to wavelab and even soundforge tho?

i have used it in the past, I think i used studio and master 6.0

[Brian Skalinder]

I would reccomend Samp. over any of those. It especially shines in multi-track mixing and editing. It has a bit of a learning curve, but well worth it , IMHO.

I'm very familiar with Audition, somewhat familiar with Wavelab, and not at all familiar with Soundforge and Samplitude.  What does Samplitude do that the others do not, or perhaps do better than the other apps I mention?  Curious about your first-hand experience and whether you've run any comparisons to determine which features, functions you like best?  I know when I ran my dither comparison I had very specific preferences regarding results and/or user interface.  But the results had more to do with plugins rather than the apps themselves, though of course there were differences in the built-in dither algos (only Wavelab and Audition built-in dither, if I recall).  I've not yet done an SRC comparison yet, but may soon.

[RebelRebel]

Hey Brian,
I havent done specific scientific comps, but I do like the multi-tracking of Samplitude better, the included POW-R dither algorithm, the "real time" non destructive editing options(no render!),and most of all, I love the fact that samplitude has no filesize limitation for edits. With my ears it *seems* that tracks produced from samplitude sound better(my monitors arent the best, (used yamaha ns-1000s)(and it also seemed like the native SRC scheme in samplitude sounded better). Not science I know...the only definite(non-subjective) *concrete* advantage that samplitude has over wavelab is the Multi-Track recording. (well, and the included POW-R dither (on any after v7) )It does have a massive learning curve , and ive spent quite a few hours trying to wrap my brain around it. Professionals use both, and they are both highly regarded, so you cant go wrong either way. Brian, I guess I shouldve said that if you are going to do multi-track recording/editing, I would reccomend samplitude over the others..(though I do use it for 2 ch stereo tracking as well now)
SRC Comp: http://src.infinitewave.ca/   

I would reccomend Samp. over any of those. It especially shines in multi-track mixing and editing. It has a bit of a learning curve, but well worth it , IMHO.

I'm very familiar with Audition, somewhat familiar with Wavelab, and not at all familiar with Soundforge and Samplitude.  What does Samplitude do that the others do not, or perhaps do better than the other apps I mention?  Curious about your first-hand experience and whether you've run any comparisons to determine which features, functions you like best?  I know when I ran my dither comparison I had very specific preferences regarding results and/or user interface.  But the results had more to do with plugins rather than the apps themselves, though of course there were differences in the built-in dither algos (only Wavelab and Audition built-in dither, if I recall).  I've not yet done an SRC comparison yet, but may soon.