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Re: Denon 2910 Universal player?
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2006, 08:35:04 PM »
its a great unit.

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Re: Denon 2910 Universal player?
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2006, 07:37:33 AM »
does it digi-out 24/192 ?

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Re: Denon 2910 Universal player?
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2006, 12:47:53 PM »
I have the 2900 Like Micheal, and it is fantastic. I am sure the 2910 is awesome too.

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Re: Denon 2910 Universal player?
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2006, 11:23:00 AM »
Does anyone know anything about the new DVD-2930CI and how that stacks up in comapred to the 2900/2910/3910?
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Re: Denon 2910 Universal player?
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2006, 11:46:02 PM »
I have a Sony XA20-ES, a giant killer of its era that's still looks and works like it just came out of the box.  Would I get a major upgrade in CD Audio from these Denon's under discussion?

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Re: Denon 2910 Universal player?
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2006, 06:54:12 AM »
Can anyone tell me if the Denon 2900/2910 has digital audio output of Stereo at 24 bit with 192kHz sampling rate ?
TIA

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Re: Denon 2910 Universal player?
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2006, 11:44:09 PM »
I do not believe it will output 24/196 but I have never had a signal that high to play... For some info (I sell these things at work and i own one)... The 2910 and the 3910 are pretty much the same units as far as audio playback are concerned. The difference is an improved transport and the Denon link cable (mostly a plus if you listen to SACD... and happen to have a AVR3806 or better). the new 2930CI is somewhat of a different animal.... in the video that is. Denon has had, for the past few years, a problem with the Farujia (sp) chips in their DVD Players in that video tended to have a purple haze on it. This year they switched the vid chip set to the Realta T2. So far Denon hasn't told us...via our reps. sheite about the audio side as compared to the 2910. As long as it is as good it will still be the best sub $1K solution that does DVD, DVD-A, Red Book, SACD, VCD...etc... on the market.

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Re: Denon 2910 Universal player?
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2006, 11:09:07 PM »
Can anyone tell me if the Denon 2900/2910 has digital audio output of Stereo at 24 bit with 192kHz sampling rate ?
TIA

I'm using my Grace m902 as a DAC and pre, to be quite honest I like the sound of the 2910 via the analog output better than digital>m902.  To me it's a non-issue since I prefer the analog out.  If I could find some DVD burning software that wasn't a total pain in the ass to use I might be able to test and try.

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Re: Denon 2910 Universal player?
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2006, 06:35:39 AM »
Can anyone tell me if the Denon 2900/2910 has digital audio output of Stereo at 24 bit with 192kHz sampling rate ?
TIA

I'm using my Grace m902 as a DAC and pre, to be quite honest I like the sound of the 2910 via the analog output better than digital>m902.  To me it's a non-issue since I prefer the analog out.  If I could find some DVD burning software that wasn't a total pain in the ass to use I might be able to test and try.



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Re: Denon 2910 Universal player?
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2006, 01:28:52 PM »
DVD Audio creator, despite its name, does not burn DVD-A... it burns DVD-V.
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Re: Denon 2910 Universal player?
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2006, 01:43:17 PM »
DVD Audio creator, despite its name, does not burn DVD-A... it burns DVD-V.

and to make sure no one is confused...will burn 24/96 and 24/48 capable discs...just in DVD-V format.  These discs playback perfectly on my Pioneer Elite DV-45A

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Re: Denon 2910 Universal player?
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2006, 02:13:39 PM »
Can anyone tell me if the Denon 2900/2910 has digital audio output of Stereo at 24 bit with 192kHz sampling rate ?
TIA

no, looking at page 13 of the manual, it downsamples 24/192 material to 24/96 for the digi-out.

additionally, it will not output over 16/48 for any copyrighted PCM material.

Can anyone tell me if the Denon 2900/2910 has digital audio output of Stereo at 24 bit with 192kHz sampling rate ?
TIA

I'm using my Grace m902 as a DAC and pre, to be quite honest I like the sound of the 2910 via the analog output better than digital>m902.  To me it's a non-issue since I prefer the analog out.  If I could find some DVD burning software that wasn't a total pain in the ass to use I might be able to test and try.



curious about this statement...what is the rest of your system?  I have never heard one of those grace boxes, but if the denon outperforms it, i may have to look at this player.  anyone else using a grace headphone amp/DAC as a pre-amp?  do all-in-one boxes typically sound better than it as a front end?

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Re: Denon 2910 Universal player?
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2006, 02:29:34 PM »
DVD Audio creator, despite its name, does not burn DVD-A... it burns DVD-V.

and to make sure no one is confused...will burn 24/96 and 24/48 capable discs...just in DVD-V format.  These discs playback perfectly on my Pioneer Elite DV-45A

Well it burns them as linear PCM, wich is good, but I have never been able to verify that the 2910 does not downsample the data. In fact I have not found a way to confirm what bit rate and sample rate actually gets burned to the discs by DVD-Audio creator at all. When I put a Disc Wielder Disc in the 2910 I get the L.PCM light and the DVD-Audio light so I am fairly confident that it is actually reading 24/48 or 24/96 data. I jsut wish there was a way to confirm that the DVD-V discs actually get decoded at the proper rate.
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Re: Denon 2910 Universal player?
« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2006, 02:32:09 PM »
DVD Audio creator, despite its name, does not burn DVD-A... it burns DVD-V.

and to make sure no one is confused...will burn 24/96 and 24/48 capable discs...just in DVD-V format.  These discs playback perfectly on my Pioneer Elite DV-45A

Well it burns them as linear PCM, wich is good, but I have never been able to verify that the 2910 does not downsample the data. In fact I have not found a way to confirm what bit rate and sample rate actually gets burned to the discs by DVD-Audio creator at all. When I put a Disc Wielder Disc in the 2910 I get the L.PCM light and the DVD-Audio light so I am fairly confident that it is actually reading 24/48 or 24/96 data. I jsut wish there was a way to confirm that the DVD-V discs actually get decoded at the proper rate.

are you using the internal DAC on the 2910 or outputting digitally to a receiver or external DAC?

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Re: Denon 2910 Universal player?
« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2006, 07:36:15 PM »
Reciever... what the heck is that!?!?!  Tubes man... all tubes :yahoo:

So, I'll stop being a wise ass and answer the question. I use the DA in the 2910. It is the only device in my playback system that even has a remote.  My playback system is in my sig if you are curious.
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