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best cardiod mic for 300 dollars?
« on: September 06, 2007, 08:02:12 PM »
Which cardiod mics would you say is the best buy if I want them to meet these criterias;

1. I want to use the mics to an edirol R-09
2. I want to tape mainly alternative rock bands in indoor arenas and big clubs.
3. I want the mics to be fairly stealth / small
4. I prefer a clear and welldefined sound to a more bassy sound (if there has to be a trade off)
5. I want the mics in the price-range of about 300 dollars.

The mics I have in mind so far are SP CMC-8, Church audios cardiods, MM HLSC-1.  Which one of these 3 is the best? Are there more mics to concider given the pricerange?

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Re: best cardiod mic for 300 dollars?
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2007, 08:16:23 PM »
Not sure if these are the "best" (best is an opinion), but I would suggest this deal:

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Re: best cardiod mic for 300 dollars?
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2007, 08:44:33 PM »
Church Cards+Pre pretty much fit every requirement on that list. 
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Re: best cardiod mic for 300 dollars?
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2007, 10:34:47 AM »
I have the SP-CMC-8's and they just sound much too thin and a complete lack of good bass response. I am going to try the MM HLSC-1's.  Arni, a board member, sent me outdoor samples of the AT853 low sens and MM HLSC-1's and the MM's won me over.

I think the Church Cards are a great find for the price paid and may still get those just so I have plenty of options.
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Re: best cardiod mic for 300 dollars?
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2007, 07:34:56 PM »
I have the SP-CMC-8's and they just sound much too thin and a complete lack of good bass response. I am going to try the MM HLSC-1's.  Arni, a board member, sent me outdoor samples of the AT853 low sens and MM HLSC-1's and the MM's won me over.

I think the Church Cards are a great find for the price paid and may still get those just so I have plenty of options.

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Re: best cardiod mic for 300 dollars?
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2007, 08:47:38 AM »
studio projects C4
you could get a pair for less than $300 (used)

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Re: best cardiod mic for 300 dollars?
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2007, 10:06:28 AM »
Hey Nick, how would you go about running the C4s with a Church STC-9000 pre and an R-09. Or rather, can you? I I have the Church cards and am very happy with them, but I'm always curious about other options. Thanks, rWc3523
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Re: best cardiod mic for 300 dollars?
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2007, 10:24:25 AM »
w/an outboard phantom supply.

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Re: best cardiod mic for 300 dollars?
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2007, 12:53:35 PM »
And where exactly would that go in the chain? mic>pre>?>R-09?  or mic>power>pre>R-09? Thanks, Russ
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Re: best cardiod mic for 300 dollars?
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2007, 12:59:43 PM »
mic>power>pre>recorder
Peluso CEMC6, ck4/ck21
Oktava MC012
Sony ECM260f
AT 811

canare star quads
DIY mil spec silvers

DIY (W-ish) mod UA5>JB3
Oade ACM PMD 660
R4


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Re: best cardiod mic for 300 dollars?
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2007, 01:38:28 PM »
i love the at943's. LOVE!
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Re: best cardiod mic for 300 dollars?
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2007, 01:44:33 PM »
Thanks Krispy. Can someone give me an example of a "phantom power unit" ? Cost, etc? Thanks, rWc3523
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Re: best cardiod mic for 300 dollars?
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2007, 01:57:27 PM »
common ones would be the deneke PS-2 or art phantom II.  they range in price.  but if you were gonna get a full size mic and a phantom power supply you might as well get an all in one phantom/pre like an edirol ua5 or an all in one phantom/pre/recorder like a pmd 660.  A few years back you saw a lot of people running mics>ps2>ad20>recorder.  then more and more people started picking up UA5's replacing both the phantom and gain stages.  but recently it seems like everyone I see is using the super all in one that encompasses power/pre/and recorder into one box.

hope that made sense.  I'm kinda rambling.
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Oade ACM PMD 660
R4


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Re: best cardiod mic for 300 dollars?
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2007, 02:17:44 PM »
No, it was actually very clear. Why add another link to the chain when you can reduce the number of links with a different piece of equipment. You took care of my questions quite well, thank you! a +T for your troubles!  rWc3523 8)
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Re: best cardiod mic for 300 dollars?
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2007, 02:26:31 PM »
makers of phantom boxes:

neumann b48i (expensive)
AKG (not sure of the model, but probably not cheap)
Denecke PS2 (killer box, $150 ?)
Art
Rolls
Core-Sounds new phantom box looks bad ass as well.

here is what sweetwater carries:  http://www.sweetwater.com/c959--Phantom_Power
and fullcompass has more:  http://www.fullcompass.com/category/Phantom-power-supplies.html

looks like the rolls and the stuart are the least expensive.

 

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