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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2018, 01:31:09 AM »
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2018, 01:56:09 AM »
I think it's about time I join this thread, now that I own a clamp (Manfrotto superclamp).

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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2018, 02:08:52 AM »
Not critiqueing, but a few wraps of e-tape on the 2' runs of Schoeps active cables have made a world of difference for me. I can deploy in about a minute and bust down in less time than that... And, if I plan ahead, I can actually  :cheers: with friends...

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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2018, 02:19:07 AM »
I think it's about time I join this thread, now that I own a clamp (Manfrotto superclamp).

My first clampage ----> https://taperssection.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=186708.0;attach=131311;image

Welcome! This is a DIY thread, AFAIC. Old salts and new eyes are always welcome...

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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2018, 04:28:27 AM »

I'll put in a plug for using a safety cable, (or safety bond in UK) whenever hanging gear over people's heads or where it could crash down and hurt something if the clamp failed.
Here is a link to the safety cable used on what has become a standard stage lighting fixture, the "LEKO" which weighs a lot more than any microphone setup I've seen.

We can use their 5:1 safety ratio as a guide though 10:1 is not stupid. If your mics weigh 5 lbs with the clamp, get a "safety bond" that can hold 25 lbs and secure it running underneath the cables so it doesn't pinch them in case it needs to function.


https://www.etcconnect.com/Support/Articles/Source-Four-Safety-Cable.aspx


>This cable is a 30" long 1/8" diameter black wire rope cable with snap clamp fitted.The safety ratio of the cable is 5:1
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2018, 05:04:48 AM »

I'll put in a plug for using a safety cable, (or safety bond in UK) whenever hanging gear over people's heads or where it could crash down and hurt something if the clamp failed.
Here is a link to the safety cable used on what has become a standard stage lighting fixture, the "LEKO" which weighs a lot more than any microphone setup I've seen.

We can use their 5:1 safety ratio as a guide though 10:1 is not stupid. If your mics weigh 5 lbs with the clamp, get a "safety bond" that can hold 25 lbs and secure it running underneath the cables so it doesn't pinch them in case it needs to function.


https://www.etcconnect.com/Support/Articles/Source-Four-Safety-Cable.aspx


>This cable is a 30" long 1/8" diameter black wire rope cable with snap clamp fitted.The safety ratio of the cable is 5:1

Thank you for this. I was concerned the entire night about the clamp failing and someone getting hurt below. Getting a safety cable rated to a much higher weight for if I attach my soon-to-arrive extension pole from a balcony.
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2018, 11:19:12 AM »
ycoop, I have 2 of those listed above, nothing we (amateur recordists) typically do mic/boom stand wise would require more than the 5:1 ratio unless you are running tube LD's. It looks "small" and is not very expensive, but will do the job.
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2018, 11:37:52 AM »
I have a Bogen 3373 which is the 7' light stand.  I hacked the legs a little to give it a smaller footprint which sacrifices max height as well as stability a little. 

I want to clamp my Canon Vixia XA10 onto it for a static shot.  This is gonna make it more top heavy than it already is. 

Beside lowering the stand's center of gravity and taping the thing down does anyone have any tips on how to clamp the camera to my stand?  I have Rowis and a Superclamp but cannot get the camera out far enough away from the stand, or it is at the wrong angle.  Personally, I'd prefer the former since it weighs less.
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2018, 11:51:48 AM »
I have a Bogen 3373 which is the 7' light stand.  I hacked the legs a little to give it a smaller footprint which sacrifices max height as well as stability a little. 

I want to clamp my Canon Vixia XA10 onto it for a static shot.  This is gonna make it more top heavy than it already is. 

Beside lowering the stand's center of gravity and taping the thing down does anyone have any tips on how to clamp the camera to my stand?  I have Rowis and a Superclamp but cannot get the camera out far enough away from the stand, or it is at the wrong angle.  Personally, I'd prefer the former since it weighs less.

A magic arm / friction arm like this one:

:https://www.amazon.de/TARION-Edelstahl-Gelenkarm-Videoleuchte-Mikrophon/dp/B014F6G2TM/ref=pd_aw_sbs_421_of_11?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B014F6G2TM&pd_rd_r=5c69c7db-6d8e-11e8-a420-1b90d2848b1e&pd_rd_w=KWahE&pd_rd_wg=OvpCf&pf_rd_i=mobile-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_p=8822005502690862456&pf_rd_r=R5Y1NH327ERCN36Y7RQM&pf_rd_s=mobile-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=Z0KJNVGB8JDC9S4PS2H4&th=1

I'm sure the same thing is available under a lot of different brand names.

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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2018, 12:21:38 PM »
A magic arm / friction arm like this one:

:https://www.amazon.de/TARION-Edelstahl-Gelenkarm-Videoleuchte-Mikrophon/dp/B014F6G2TM/ref=pd_aw_sbs_421_of_11?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B014F6G2TM&pd_rd_r=5c69c7db-6d8e-11e8-a420-1b90d2848b1e&pd_rd_w=KWahE&pd_rd_wg=OvpCf&pf_rd_i=mobile-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_p=8822005502690862456&pf_rd_r=R5Y1NH327ERCN36Y7RQM&pf_rd_s=mobile-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=Z0KJNVGB8JDC9S4PS2H4&th=1

I'm sure the same thing is available under a lot of different brand names.

Cool, thanks for the fast reply!

Does that thing say it weighs 3 kilograms?  6.5 pounds?  I really only need something half that size I bet.
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2018, 12:35:57 PM »
A magic arm / friction arm like this one:

:https://www.amazon.de/TARION-Edelstahl-Gelenkarm-Videoleuchte-Mikrophon/dp/B014F6G2TM/ref=pd_aw_sbs_421_of_11?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B014F6G2TM&pd_rd_r=5c69c7db-6d8e-11e8-a420-1b90d2848b1e&pd_rd_w=KWahE&pd_rd_wg=OvpCf&pf_rd_i=mobile-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_p=8822005502690862456&pf_rd_r=R5Y1NH327ERCN36Y7RQM&pf_rd_s=mobile-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=Z0KJNVGB8JDC9S4PS2H4&th=1

I'm sure the same thing is available under a lot of different brand names.

Cool, thanks for the fast reply!

Does that thing say it weighs 3 kilograms?  6.5 pounds?  I really only need something half that size I bet.

No. The maximum **load** is 3kg / 6.5 pounds which should be enough for a small camera or a camcorder.
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2018, 02:08:54 PM »
I want to clamp my Canon Vixia XA10 onto it for a static shot.  This is gonna make it more top heavy than it already is. 

Beside lowering the stand's center of gravity and taping the thing down does anyone have any tips on how to clamp the camera to my stand?
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2018, 07:26:51 PM »
My Matthews telescopic baby stand extension arrived today (woohoo)!

I’m now trying to figure out how to attach a stereo bar with 5/8” threads to the stud. It looks like I’ll need a rapid adapter, but I can only find them going from 5/8” stud to 3/8” or 1/4” threads. Do I have to go 5/8” stud > 3/8” or 1/4” threads > threaded adapter to 5/8” threads or are there 5/8” stud > 5/8” threads rapid adapters that I just can’t find?
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2018, 09:21:27 AM »
I have a Bogen 3373 which is the 7' light stand.  I hacked the legs a little to give it a smaller footprint which sacrifices max height as well as stability a little. 

I want to clamp my Canon Vixia XA10 onto it for a static shot.  This is gonna make it more top heavy than it already is. 

Beside lowering the stand's center of gravity and taping the thing down does anyone have any tips on how to clamp the camera to my stand?  I have Rowis and a Superclamp but cannot get the camera out far enough away from the stand, or it is at the wrong angle.  Personally, I'd prefer the former since it weighs less.

I use the Superclamp and short extension https://www.amazon.com/Impact-Extension-Spigot-Super-Clamp/dp/B00HCQDGI8 then I put my pan and tilt head on the spigot. 

It gets the camera out 6 inches or so from the stand so I can use the flip screen but not so far out that it makes it wobbly.
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