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New 12TB GDrive Hard Drive
« on: February 03, 2023, 01:27:49 AM »
Just bought a new 12 TB GDrive hard drive from B&H Photo. This thing is AMAZING! So fast and so big! Plug and play with my iMac.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1644072-REG/sandisk_professional_sdph51j_012t_nbaad_g_drive_pro_drive_12_tb.html

This will be my new 'A' Drive and I will designate my 10TB GDrive as a backup (formally my 'A' drive.)

I also have an 8TB GDrive that was a backup for the 10 that will now be erased and loaded with new shows. :)

Plus the three older Lacie Quadras.

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Re: New 12TB GDrive Hard Drive
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2023, 03:20:02 PM »
being a video guy this would last me 6 months.  I have so many HDD's it's scary at this point.

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Re: New 12TB GDrive Hard Drive
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2023, 05:08:19 PM »
Looks like a great product, however the Thunderbolt interface seems overpowered to the task of running a SATA drive, so doesn't strike me as a great value at retail.
I've been using USB drives for less than half the price per TB storage.


I don't want to discourage anyone from spending the money on great gear, but it's not something that's made itself a priority to me yet.


I do have a thunderbolt 4 hub, and the notion of daisy chaining several of these is appealing in terms of reliability,
but I don't prefer to leave mechanical drives spinning all the time, or even plugged in, as they are noisy, and draw more power than SSD. I just don't require that much data to be immediately accessible from spinning rust. Currently have a 4tb, and 3 1tb SSD's hooked up, so I have plenty of workspace, and a large "iTunes" directory, and then some.

I use an indexing program that keeps the catalogs of all the drives in my storage drawer, so i can find a file before I plug in the appropriate hard drive, whenever I need anything offline. https://cdfinder.de/
Looks like my stock cheap USB drive reads and writes about 145 MB/s, a cheap SATA SSD in a USB-3 case reads at 389/writes at 409...
A NVME blade in a USB-C case gives me 739/791, and the same NVME SSD in a thunderbolt case from OWC gives 1646/1108. My mac Mini internal SSD is over 3000 for both.
The G-Drive only does 250... so it's not what I'd call a performance device at this time.
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Re: New 12TB GDrive Hard Drive
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2023, 05:22:38 PM »
I also have an 8TB GDrive that was a backup for the 10 that will now be erased and loaded with new shows. :)
wait, you only keep one backup?
If a drive fails, then you have no backup!?
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Re: New 12TB GDrive Hard Drive
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2023, 05:40:58 PM »
FYI, the 12GB HDD used in this G-Drive can be had for much less:

https://www.newegg.com/hgst-ultrastar-he12-huh721212al5200-12gb/p/1Z4-0005-00352
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Re: New 12TB GDrive Hard Drive
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2023, 08:55:30 PM »
It's an enterprise drive?


Enterprise drive reliability comes at the cost of initial expense, and the fact that enterprise installations can have individual devices which are both noisy and can run hot, since they'll be in a data center with proper cooling and not someone's quiet office or studio.
Newegg's page gently points out that "noise is not a problem in data centers"


https://www.neweggbusiness.com/smartbuyer/storage/enterprise-vs-desktop-hard-drives-5-notable-differences/
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Re: New 12TB GDrive Hard Drive
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2023, 02:21:40 PM »
I also have an 8TB GDrive that was a backup for the 10 that will now be erased and loaded with new shows. :)
wait, you only keep one backup?
If a drive fails, then you have no backup!?

Each 'A' drive has it's own coresponding 'B' (backup) drive.
In the case of the 8TB GDrive, two 4TB Lacie Quadras will be the backups.

Identical files on two drives across the board.

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Re: New 12TB GDrive Hard Drive
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2023, 03:03:28 PM »

Each 'A' drive has it's own coresponding 'B' (backup) drive.
In the case of the 8TB GDrive, two 4TB Lacie Quadras will be the backups.

Identical files on two drives across the board.
So only one backup of each file? Still seems like a drive failure leaves you with no backup?
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding and you have identical content on each "stack?"
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Re: New 12TB GDrive Hard Drive
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2023, 04:03:51 PM »
It's an enterprise drive?


Enterprise drive reliability comes at the cost of initial expense, and the fact that enterprise installations can have individual devices which are both noisy and can run hot, since they'll be in a data center with proper cooling and not someone's quiet office or studio.
Newegg's page gently points out that "noise is not a problem in data centers"


https://www.neweggbusiness.com/smartbuyer/storage/enterprise-vs-desktop-hard-drives-5-notable-differences/

All other things being equal, higher RPM drives will be louder and run warmer, but they are also built to hold up to near-constant use. That's not what you'll typically see in a consumer desktop application.

I have a WD RED 7200 rpm drive in my system as a local backup. It does not run hot, and it is very quiet.
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Re: New 12TB GDrive Hard Drive
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2023, 06:18:01 PM »

Each 'A' drive has it's own coresponding 'B' (backup) drive.
In the case of the 8TB GDrive, two 4TB Lacie Quadras will be the backups.

Identical files on two drives across the board.
So only one backup of each file? Still seems like a drive failure leaves you with no backup?
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding and you have identical content on each "stack?"

That is correct. Each drive has its own dedicated backup drive.

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Re: New 12TB GDrive Hard Drive
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2023, 09:38:14 PM »
I am starting a new topic so I don't distract from this nice Thunderbolt drive.


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