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Title: Binaurals or Cardoids?
Post by: AsYd on January 24, 2004, 12:39:54 AM
since im just beginning my foray into taping, i recently purchased a D8 DAT recorder and was debating which type of mic to use.  Typically, i plan on taping rock/metal bands, most notably, Dream Theater and Metallica since theyre both touring soon.

since the venues are obviously different as are other variables, which style mics would work best?  i was leaning toward binaurals but i dont plan on mounting them and i dont want crowd noise coming out my ass either.  any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Title: Re:Binaurals or Cardoids?
Post by: zhianosatch on January 24, 2004, 02:24:15 AM
A small portion of the wealth of info in the archive indicates that "binaural" is a technique using omnidirectional microphones. That cleared up, how much do you plan on spending?
Title: Re:Binaurals or Cardoids?
Post by: Sean Gallemore on January 24, 2004, 08:03:59 AM
binaurals recordings is so awesome.  Armen, your binaural recordings is my favoritest
Title: Re:Binaurals or Cardoids?
Post by: AsYd on January 24, 2004, 09:00:20 AM
I was gonna get the mics from core-sound, the set for around $250.  i just wondered which mics would be ore condusive to what id be taping.
Title: Re:Binaurals or Cardoids?
Post by: Sean Gallemore on January 24, 2004, 09:27:23 AM
normally I'd recommend cards for what you described, but since you sound bent on getting them from CS go with the omnis..........or cards.  Depends on where you plan on taping from.
Title: Re:Binaurals or Cardoids?
Post by: zhianosatch on January 24, 2004, 12:35:02 PM
no. sound pro at831s. do NOT get csbs.
Title: Re:Binaurals or Cardoids?
Post by: muj on January 24, 2004, 12:51:58 PM
i used to own the at831.Go for them! nice mics.i rarely stealth but i do have a custom made jk labs box.hmm....i should post pix of it...
Title: Re:Binaurals or Cardoids?
Post by: nickgregory on January 24, 2004, 01:17:37 PM
I would recommend cards for most circumstances....At least that way, you will be able to reject some of the noise around you and when you are stealthing that is a must
Title: Re:Binaurals or Cardoids?
Post by: Sean Gallemore on January 24, 2004, 07:02:30 PM
SP-CMC-2 > SP-SPSB-1 > D8 is a nice small setup :)

however, a little box in between there would make it that much better :)
Title: Re:Binaurals or Cardoids?
Post by: dklein on January 25, 2004, 02:21:07 PM
yeah - pass on the CSBs.  Way too much money for modified $5 panasonic capsules.
Title: Re:Binaurals or Cardoids?
Post by: Kindguy on January 25, 2004, 02:23:01 PM
I'd second the at831 suggestion. Armen bought mine, Not sure who's using them now though. I only ran them 3 times but liked the sound for the price.
Title: Re:Binaurals or Cardoids?
Post by: Arglebargle on January 25, 2004, 05:11:28 PM
Just out of curiousity, I have the DPA 4060s, how do you make a real binaural recording? Do you stick em in your ears, and if so, what direction? Pointing into your ear canal, or pointing out? Won't they get all waxy and gross?Thanks!
Title: Re:Binaurals or Cardoids?
Post by: Sean Gallemore on January 25, 2004, 05:21:16 PM
as close to the ear as possible, ideally pointing out!
Title: Re:Binaurals or Cardoids?
Post by: zhianosatch on January 27, 2004, 06:04:27 AM
I'd second the at831 suggestion. Armen bought mine, Not sure who's using them now though. I only ran them 3 times but liked the sound for the price.

Schwilly used them regularly for a while and I ran them twice. Now they sit unused like the rest of my gear... what a sad dry spell...
Title: Re:Binaurals or Cardoids?
Post by: Ed. on January 27, 2004, 07:13:28 AM
if you get omni's you're gonna have to get close to the stacks, so count on that.  if you're set on core sounds, i'd suggest dynamic audio or giant squids, they're the same mic, different casing and a helluva lot cheaper - plus they look the same, so you could still technically lie to all your friends and say that you got the cs anyway.
Title: Re:Binaurals or Cardoids?
Post by: F.O.Bean on January 27, 2004, 07:22:44 AM
cards ;)
Title: Re:Binaurals or Cardoids?
Post by: zhianosatch on January 27, 2004, 03:44:05 PM
if you get omni's you're gonna have to get close to the stacks, so count on that.

i beg to differ. haha, if i could only describe my hatred for "stack tapes"...

  if you're set on core sounds, i'd suggest dynamic audio or giant squids, they're the same mic, different casing and a helluva lot cheaper - plus they look the same, so you could still technically lie to all your friends and say that you got the cs anyway.

no, no, no...
those three are NOT the same mic. dynamic audio "binaurals" are core sound knockoffs, but giant squid omnis are certainly not. same cap, but different (or no) mods.
armen
Title: Re:Binaurals or Cardoids?
Post by: Ed. on January 28, 2004, 02:40:30 AM
i've always experienced better results when getting close to the stacks with my dynamic audio "bins"  thats just me tho, i haven't tried too many different combos with them, i just use them when thats the only option.

I didn't know that giant squids were different.  I've only heard one recording done with these and it was the guys 3rd time out in the field and it wasn't what it could be.

I must say tho, for the price i got my dynamic audio mics for they do a good job with stealthing, at least on my budget.