Topic: Conventions for splitting tracks?

[terabyte23]

Hi folks.  Say there are two songs with a minute of the band talking/tuning in between.  Do you split the tracks right where the first song ends?  Halfway between songs?  Right before the second song begins?

Just wondering if there are generally-accepted conventions for splitting tracks...  Thanks for helping a newbie 

[bl6216@yahoo.com]

Right before the second song begins

[wklitz]

if it is a significant amount of time between songs, I would go with a banter/tuning track in between, but for 1 minute, just split it right before the next song.

[jamroom]

I always split right before the song - after the banter, unless the banter is in some way introducing the next song. Think of it like listening to indvidual tracks. Your interest might wander if there is a minute or two before the song starts, but wouldn't mind so much if it was at the end. I personally will not create a track for encore applause or other such gaps, but can see why you might want to do so on occasion.

[rowjimmytour]

Right before the second song begins

Dito

[boojum]

Two second fade-in at begining of song; five second fade-out at the end.  Where you end the song is up to you and how much space you have left to fill on the CD.  They better be pretty interesting with the between song chatter or I drop them.  When you hear the same group a few times their "funny shit" isn't anymore.  It up to you, but the two second - five second rule is pretty good.

Cheers

[morst]

I always split right before the song - after the banter, unless the banter is in some way introducing the next song.

In cases where the banter includes a song introduction, I split it right before the actual introduction. For instance, a song ends and the vocalist says "That was one from our first album, this next song is from our newest album" I will probably split it where I typed the comma. Sometimes it's easier said than done, but I listen to iTunes on shuffle play a lot, and to do it any other way results in some weird nonsequiturs.

If the talking is just unrelated banter and over about 45 seconds, I will often split it into a separate track. If the space between songs has no talking or tuning, I will leave it attached to the previous song unless it's over about 90 seconds, then it gets its own track. Personally, I do not fade my recordings in or out, and if I have to break a show into parts to burn CD's, I'll pick a spot where there's a natural pause whenever possible.

Edit- I just remembered this thread while tracking out a show, and realized that I didn't post the full story for how I deal with between-song tunings. If the band starts playing sound which would tend to indicate the next song they will be playing, I often track that with the next song. Think of Grateful Dead shows- the band would often make sounds characteristic of the next song they would play, sometimes they would change their minds, and play something else. These tunings which relate to the next song are usually best tracked with that song, in my opinion.

[phanophish]

I always split right before the song - after the banter, unless the banter is in some way introducing the next song. Think of it like listening to indvidual tracks. Your interest might wander if there is a minute or two before the song starts, but wouldn't mind so much if it was at the end. I personally will not create a track for encore applause or other such gaps, but can see why you might want to do so on occasion.

Exactly what I do......