Topic: DAT transfer to CDR

[Mark]

I have a Tascam DA-20-mkII and want to convert DAT to CDR via a Philips stand alone CDR burner.  I want to accomplish this via digital coax cable.  I can not get a signal to the Philips CDR.  I did the power up SCMS avoidance option and plugged my digital coax cable from the DAT to the Philips.  

It was digi coax out on the DAT, and digi coax input on the Philips.  I then went RCA output to my reciever to hear playback.  I can not get levels on the Philips.  I did set the input to digi coax, but still nothing.  

Anyone using this config?  

What do you do to transfer  DAT>CDR true digital??

Mark

[Mark]

Cable not proven.  Picked up a 3' HOSA digi coax for this application since the 6' is in my gear bag.  

Not getting any type of levels on the Philips.  Yes, going digi out on TASCAM (with SCMS power up option off), and digi coax in on the Philips.

Any recommendations?

On Philips, using Record Manual mode.

[Brian Skalinder]

Cable not proven.
[snip]
Any recommendations?

Try a known-good cable for starters.
Is the digi-out of the DA20 known-good?
Same for digi-in on the Philips?
Is the Philips supposed to provide analog output while it's recording digital input?

[goose]

If the DAT is recorded at 48k, you will need to set the CD recorder to recognize it.  On the Tascam units, it is the Digital Direct setting or something like that.  I recommend taking a look at the Philips manual - perhaps in the "troubleshooting" section?

[Mark]

The digital out on the Tascam is not proven.  Unit bought used.  
Philips bought new, digital in never used until now.  Analog transfers worked fine on the CDR when I record at 48kHz on my D7.  The Tascam does have a switch to go from 48 to 44.1.  Would that make a difference?  I thought I had it on 48, but will research the Philips manual to see what it accepts or does with different rates.  

What type of digital coax do you recommend if the HOSA isn't up to par?

[John R]

the 44.1/48 are the recording rates. the tascam will send whatever's been written to the tape.  as mentioned before, the phillips may be in digital direct mode and is seeking only 44.1.  see if you are able to change that setting.  any ratshak digi cable will do.  did you record the original?  if so, try to send signal between the da20 and the original device.

jr

[Mark]

Yes, I did record the original.  I will try the DA-20 to my D7 to check if signal is passing.  

All my tapes should be 48kHz I believe, recorded using SP mode on D7, as well as the 48kHz setting on my UA-5.

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

If you get the DA20>Phillips working, that would be great!  And totally digital.  

However, there are certain problems related to DAE, Digital Audio Extraction, in that it relies on the CDR being burned, and then read again without errors in order for the transfer to your computer to be "bit perfect".

You may be better off getting a soundcard and transferring that way:  DAT>Soundcard>HD>CDWave>WAV>CDR.

But DAE is accepted in the ETREE community, and I'm not going to complain!  

Good luck with your transfers!

Terry

[Mark]

I was able to pass signal from the DA-20 to the D7.
This proved to me that the Digital Output on the DA-20 is ok, and that the cable I am using is ok.  

I still can not get a signal on the Philips CDR.  I am still working on that.  I did select a digital external source, but still nothing.

Yes, a digital soundcard would be nice, but until that day comes, I need to work with what I got.  Thank you kindly for the ideas.

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

Dang...  Sounds like that digi-in on the Phillips isn't working...

Or maybe it can only input 44.1???  

Terry

[bkirby]

Most of the Phillips CDRs do not have SRC (Sample Rate Converter) built in them. You will probably have to use another piece of equipment to convert the 48kHz to 44.1kHz. The best thing to do is try and record just you talking for a few seconds on the end of a tape in 44.1kHz. Try and transfer that to the Phillips and see if it will recognize that signal. If not, the input is not functioning properly.
Hope this helps...
Brad K.

[Mark]

My Owner's Manual makes no reference to 44.1k.  I called Philips and they want a $15 fee for helping over the phone.  I will try to test out using a recording of 44.1 to see what happens, along with stopping by a reputable stereo shop to see what they can tell me.

[John R]

did you tru sending a signal from the d7 to the burner?

jr

[bkirby]

If your manual makes no reference to the internal Sample Rate Conversion, it is not included in your particular unit. Thus, you will either need an outboard conversion unit, or just run analog out of the DA-20 to the Phillips. Let us know what you find...
Brad K.

[Mark]

I did not run the D7 to the Burner to check for signal due to SCMS.  The DA-20 power up option allows me to avoid the SCMS.  I did run the D7 to the Burner via analog, so it works that way.