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Microtrack setup
« on: February 08, 2006, 12:13:40 PM »
I want to buy the Microtack to do some concert recordings and I had a few questions:

1.   Why cant I just buy that with the memory card and tape at shows?  It seem like everyone adds mics, add'l power, wires and such.

2.   If it is that much better with the add'l mics, ect.....Can anyone give me a simple rig plan and a place that I can purchase the entire package togther.

Thanks

I just want a stelth type setup that is easy to use.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.......I would like to get it in time for Langerado Festival in March.

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Re: Microtrack setup
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2006, 12:21:08 PM »
1.   Why cant I just buy that with the memory card and tape at shows?  It seem like everyone adds mics, add'l power, wires and such.

You can.  But you likely won't be happy with the results.  Try it, see if you like it.  If not, then add gear as necessary.

2.   If it is that much better with the add'l mics, ect.....Can anyone give me a simple rig plan and a place that I can purchase the entire package togther.

Start here.  Read.  Learn.  Listen.  Then provide some additional information:

Open or stealth?
What kind of music in what sort of venues?
Budget?
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Re: Microtrack setup
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2006, 01:28:53 PM »
Thanks for the response.

Mostly Stealth, rock shows, Wilco, Drive By Truckers, U2, MMJ, Stones.....basically that kind of stuff.

Lets say budget of $1000-$1500 total.

Is there a place where I can purchase the MT and the otehr stuff at one time (bundle).

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Re: Microtrack setup
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2006, 02:07:03 PM »
Is there a place where I can purchase the MT and the otehr stuff at one time (bundle).

www.sound-professionals.com

Get some SP-CMC-8s with a SP-SPSB-6 battery box.  Run the battery box into the MT's 1/4" inputs using soundpro's MINI-TRS dongle.  That's all you need and it won't run you more than 300 dollars.

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Re: Microtrack setup
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2006, 02:23:52 PM »
well known retailers for this unit and all the other recording gear you would need, including mics and such, are:

sonicsense.com
cascademedia.net
oade.com
micsupply.com

as for why you need the additional gear, with the microtracker you will need to patch a signal from a taping rig to your unit, all this Microtracker does is record a signal, it of course does not have mics or anything else, its just a recorder, so if there are no tapers at a show and you show up with your Microtracker you will not be able to record the show, which is why you really need all of your own gear in addition to the Microtracker unit

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Re: Microtrack setup
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2006, 02:25:27 PM »
At that budget, for stealth, I'd consider DPA 4061 > battery box > R1
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Re: Microtrack setup
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2006, 03:13:28 PM »
so you would not recomend getting the MT?


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Re: Microtrack setup
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2006, 03:20:00 PM »
i bought one as a inexpensive backup to my 722 and it did not impress me...couldnt even get it to charge or power on so I took the thing back to the store(here in germany) and took it as a sign not to get one.

reviews are mixed here....search all the threads..you have people on both sides of the fence.

i personally wouldnt take another one if it was given to me.

do yourself a favor and grab the r-1......
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Re: Microtrack setup
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2006, 03:28:24 PM »
For running analog-in, which you'll be doing, the R-1 is probably a better choice based on some anecdotal feedback I've seen here.  Less noisy and more proven in the field.  You may wish to consider buying the R-1 direct from the Oade Bros, since they offer an upgrade to the analog inputs.  You don't need to get the upgrade right away, but they only modify units purchased from them - so if you buy from them you'll have the option to send it back for an upgrade at a later date.
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Re: Microtrack setup
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2006, 03:46:12 PM »
For running analog-in, which you'll be doing, the R-1 is probably a better choice based on some anecdotal feedback I've seen here.  Less noisy and more proven in the field.  You may wish to consider buying the R-1 direct from the Oade Bros, since they offer an upgrade to the analog inputs.  You don't need to get the upgrade right away, but they only modify units purchased from them - so if you buy from them you'll have the option to send it back for an upgrade at a later date.

Their price on a stock, unmodified R-1 is competitive as well.
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Re: Microtrack setup
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2006, 03:52:18 PM »
If I got this....would I need anything else?

2 Schoeps CMBI with 2 Schoeps MK4 Cardioid Capsules Plus an Edirol R1 24 bit digital recorder with both mic and line input upgrades at a great price . The CMBI/MK4 package used with a Y to 3.5MM stereo plug combined with the Oade Modified R1 offers exceptional sound quality in a tiny package

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Re: Microtrack setup
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2006, 03:56:58 PM »
If I got this....would I need anything else?

2 Schoeps CMBI with 2 Schoeps MK4 Cardioid Capsules Plus an Edirol R1 24 bit digital recorder with both mic and line input upgrades at a great price . The CMBI/MK4 package used with a Y to 3.5MM stereo plug combined with the Oade Modified R1 offers exceptional sound quality in a tiny package

I'll be stunned if you can get 2 x CMBI + 2 x MK4 + R1 + compact flash card within your budget of $1,000 - $1,500.
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Re: Microtrack setup
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2006, 03:59:12 PM »
The CMBI isn't really a stealthy setup.  See http://www.schoeps.de/E-2004/cmbi.html for full specs.

Dunno if you've gotten a price quote yet, but a rig like that would also require an adjustment to your budget.  If you can swing more like $2500, then you could assemble a rig like that, or something similar but better suited to stealthing.

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Re: Microtrack setup
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2006, 03:59:53 PM »
forget budget for a second....If I got that package, would it be complete and easy to use.


 

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