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Re:Want to try XY setup.
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2003, 08:31:20 PM »
A few of those say you need to be careful and pay attention to which way your diaphram is oriented.  How do you do this?
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This illustration should help.

http://scc.uchicago.edu/instructionsdiaphraghm.htm#diaphragm

That is wrong on so many levels...

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Re:Want to try XY setup.
« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2003, 12:37:32 AM »
WRONG IS RIGHT!!!!!!!!!! ;D

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Re:Want to try XY setup.
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2003, 03:59:57 AM »
Just got back from the show.  Tried XY90 for Maroon5 opener and NOS for Guster.  Listened to a little of both and think I like the XY better but both sound great.  Thanks for the tips guys.

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Re:Want to try XY setup.
« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2003, 09:58:57 AM »
Try DIN.  A tighter NOS...  90 degree angle, 20cm spacing between caps.  I tried it at the Guster show I taped and liked it...

I'm not a huge fan of XY, although I am told my M300's like it best so I am going to experiment with it this weekend.  I like a wider soundstage...  DIN gave that to me, without rolling off the highs too much as ORTF can do with some mics.

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Re:Want to try XY setup.
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2003, 03:47:30 PM »
NOS seems to me(novice) to be the closest positioning to match the human ears as anything.  I like the way the XY sounded more but I'm not sure if it was just because the opener was a little harder.  I guess a better test would be to switch between XY and NOS during a band who does 2 sets.  Kinda comaring apples and oranges right now.  

Do you have a picture/link to the DIN config you mentioned?

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Re:Want to try XY setup.
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2003, 04:25:06 PM »
i would only use NOS outdoors...or up WAY close!  
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Re:Want to try XY setup.
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2003, 04:35:46 PM »
i have an issue with trying to match the human ear with a microphone.  the human ear does not receive sound on a planar field like a microphone does.  we go through all sorts of crazy twists and turns to hear things.  even the binaural dummy doesnt really replicate what the human ear gets, so we need to compromise for what is best.

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Re:Want to try XY setup.
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2003, 04:50:55 PM »
i would only use NOS outdoors...or up WAY close!  
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Can you explain why?  I don't doubt you just want to understand the principles so I can make my own decisions.

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Re:Want to try XY setup.
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2003, 05:04:00 PM »
here you go

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Re:Want to try XY setup.
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2003, 05:12:17 PM »
That is about how close together my mics were last night when I was running NOS.  Is the main difference just the distance?

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Re:Want to try XY setup.
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2003, 05:57:45 PM »
yep :-)

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Re:Want to try XY setup.
« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2003, 06:03:51 PM »
So what makes the greater distance of the NOS config better for outdoors?  Your angles are not changing correct.

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Re:Want to try XY setup.
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2003, 09:14:24 PM »
Still curious about my question above.

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Re:Want to try XY setup.
« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2003, 02:04:55 PM »
the wider the spacing, the more your timing is going to be off on your mics.....the time-delay creates a more STEREO image as opposed to running less spacing or XY.....the more you take them in, the more FOCUSED your sound is going to be cause the time-delay is not nearly as huge....i'm a little baked so i hope this helps!!! ;D

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Re:Want to try XY setup.
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2003, 12:22:01 AM »
It just helped me  ;D

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