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Title: How important is 7 pin
Post by: bagtagsell on December 31, 2003, 02:30:50 AM
Bought a used D7 on ebay.  How important is a 7 pin cable?  I am running UA5>JB3 (optical) and I was thinking of running the D7 out of the RCAs, but if its going to suck Ill for out the cash for a 7 pin.
Title: Re:How important is 7 pin
Post by: caymanreview on December 31, 2003, 02:55:06 AM
it is very important!

with the ua5 it does the analog > digital conversion, and to get analog out of it, you must go through the digital > analog conversion again, which is not anywhere near a good thing to do. this could introduce noise to your signal.

you would have to set the levels on the d7 when taking an analog signal, and on the ua5, but using the 7 pin and taking the digital signal you would only have to change the levels on the ua5.

and taking a digi signal on the d7, im assuming it has decent levels on the display, you could use the levels on the d7 for the whole rig. sonce we all know the level meters on the jb3 suck!

buy a 7 pin! but dont buy a core sound 7 pin, no matter how cheap it is!
Title: Re:How important is 7 pin
Post by: Brian Skalinder on December 31, 2003, 08:23:11 AM
it is very important!

with the ua5 it does the analog > digital conversion, and to get analog out of it, you must go through the digital > analog conversion again, which is not anywhere near a good thing to do. this could introduce noise to your signal.

you would have to set the levels on the d7 when taking an analog signal, and on the ua5, but using the 7 pin and taking the digital signal you would only have to change the levels on the ua5.

and taking a digi signal on the d7, im assuming it has decent levels on the display, you could use the levels on the d7 for the whole rig. sonce we all know the level meters on the jb3 suck!

buy a 7 pin! but dont buy a core sound 7 pin, no matter how cheap it is!

What Dustin said.  And the reasons not to get the Core-Sound 7-pin are...in the Archival Info section!  :P
Title: Re:How important is 7 pin
Post by: F.O.Bean on December 31, 2003, 08:36:03 AM


What Dustin said.  And the reasons not to get the Core-Sound 7-pin are...in the Archival Info section!  :P
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phorgot the ahem... :P ;)
Title: Re:How important is 7 pin
Post by: Simp-Dawg on December 31, 2003, 09:11:51 AM
that is unless of course you want a cheap 7-pin cable, in which case i'll gladly sell you mine!
but if i were you, i'd spend a few extra bucks, and get either an oade or prodigital cable with the true sony 7-pin head/housing and not just a cheap unshielded grouping of pins!
Title: Re:How important is 7 pin
Post by: Brian Skalinder on December 31, 2003, 09:22:50 AM
that is unless of course you want a cheap 7-pin cable

Of course, it's no longer cheap when you have to purchase a second one because the unshielded pins get bent or break, or it stretches your female 7-pin to the point where it won't work anymore, or...oh, you get the idea.   8)

Listen to this Simp guy, it says something that he has the C-S cable and is actively encouraging you to get the Oade or ProDigital 7-pin instead.
Title: Re:How important is 7 pin
Post by: Simp-Dawg on December 31, 2003, 12:22:44 PM
i've never used the coresound 7-pin i have, it came with my m1, hence why i would get rid of it so cheaply, plus they are definitely inferior products.   seriously do yourself a favor and get a quality cable, but again if you want to go cheap, let me know ;)
Title: Re:How important is 7 pin
Post by: super-phat-al on December 31, 2003, 05:10:36 PM
get a 7 pin, im actually trying out my 7 pin for the first time tonight, but i know that the part of my (c1000s>mixpad>d-8) rig that lacked was the ADC in the d8.  by using an external ADC you bypass the ADC in the d8 and that makes tapes happy.
Title: Re:How important is 7 pin
Post by: caymanreview on January 01, 2004, 05:36:01 PM
i would reccomend the pro digital cables myslef. ive never ran an oade one(yet i just bought one with my d8) but the best cable ive ever had was my prodigital active cable
Title: Re:How important is 7 pin
Post by: Savage Messiah on January 01, 2004, 11:37:21 PM
Looks like if you want to go optical in on a D7, you'd need a Sony POC-DA12 or Sony POC-DA12P OPTICAL > 7-PIN cable. They are no longer produced and are hardly in stock anywhere, so I'd recommend you put out a request for one on the DAT-Heads list and see who responds. I practically had to weed through responses to find a brand new one and someone who took Paypal, and that was just last week. So you're probably good to go if you want to get one. New you can expect to pay about $90 for it.

Also, The POC-DA12's are pretty thin optical cables, so I've heard recommendations to wrap them in electrical tape a bit to make them a bit more resistant to interference.

As far as I know, no one but Sony produced an OPTICAL  > 7PIN > OPTICAL cable.
Title: Re:How important is 7 pin
Post by: Xpanding Man on January 02, 2004, 02:47:52 AM
Looks like if you want to go optical in on a D7, you'd need a Sony POC-DA12 or Sony POC-DA12P OPTICAL > 7-PIN cable.

don't go optical on the D7; you're already running optical for the JB3, use coax for the D7....main reason: shit happens in the field, opticals (and unshielded core-sound 7pins) can't handle the wear'n'tear

another possibility is a 'one way' Sony 7pin-coax record cable; if it's around, it should be cheaper than the oade or pro-digital cables since it's only for recording....worth mentioning.
Title: Re:How important is 7 pin
Post by: BCostigan on January 03, 2004, 07:17:59 PM
If you decide you want to go 7 pin -> optical check here:

http://www.taperssection.com/yabbse/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=11648