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Re: Stealth low-sensitivity setup from scratch
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2021, 10:28:36 AM »
I am just reading this thread and am I the only one who thinks the choice of a Sony A10 is wrong for this setup? I have one and generally speaking it runs hot. If we are talking about really loud shows why a deck that runs hot? A Marantz PMD 620MKII (or MKI) is much better as is a Tascam DR2d if it can be found. Even the Roland R07 runs less hot than the Sony. There are other less popular brands too that are good choices. The Sony M10 is better too, but seems to be selling at a price beyond it value right now. I have and use all the decks mentioned, so I am not speculating, just trying to mention there may be better choices for the OP.

I have a bunch of Tascam DR-2D's.  You can find them regularly on EBay for $60 to $100.  I t is a great stealth recorder albeit without the latest bells and whistles.

One welcome whistle it does include is a small IR remote.  With the hold-control of the recorder switched on and all transport controls on the recorder itself otherwise locked, the remote can still be used to start/stop recording, requiring only a direct line of sight to the top of the recorder.  Alternately, IR control can be switched off entirely in the system menu if desired.  It's an effective substitute for modern bluetooth control from a phone.
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Re: Stealth low-sensitivity setup from scratch
« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2021, 03:11:07 PM »
I am just reading this thread and am I the only one who thinks the choice of a Sony A10 is wrong for this setup? I have one and generally speaking it runs hot. If we are talking about really loud shows why a deck that runs hot? A Marantz PMD 620MKII (or MKI) is much better as is a Tascam DR2d if it can be found. Even the Roland R07 runs less hot than the Sony. There are other less popular brands too that are good choices. The Sony M10 is better too, but seems to be selling at a price beyond it value right now. I have and use all the decks mentioned, so I am not speculating, just trying to mention there may be better choices for the OP.

I have a bunch of Tascam DR-2D's.  You can find them regularly on EBay for $60 to $100.  I t is a great stealth recorder albeit without the latest bells and whistles.
One welcome whistle it does include is a small IR remote.  With the hold-control of the recorder switched on and all transport controls on the recorder itself otherwise locked, the remote can still be used to start/stop recording, requiring only a direct line of sight to the top of the recorder.  Alternately, IR control can be switched off entirely in the system menu if desired.  It's an effective substitute for modern bluetooth control from a phone.
It also is a good match for this OP's situation. I have never used the remote, but I probably should try it sometime.

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Re: Stealth low-sensitivity setup from scratch
« Reply #32 on: August 27, 2021, 08:41:13 AM »
I am just reading this thread and am I the only one who thinks the choice of a Sony A10 is wrong for this setup? I have one and generally speaking it runs hot. If we are talking about really loud shows why a deck that runs hot? A Marantz PMD 620MKII (or MKI) is much better as is a Tascam DR2d if it can be found. Even the Roland R07 runs less hot than the Sony. There are other less popular brands too that are good choices. The Sony M10 is better too, but seems to be selling at a price beyond it value right now. I have and use all the decks mentioned, so I am not speculating, just trying to mention there may be better choices for the OP.

I have a bunch of Tascam DR-2D's.  You can find them regularly on EBay for $60 to $100.  I t is a great stealth recorder albeit without the latest bells and whistles.
One welcome whistle it does include is a small IR remote.  With the hold-control of the recorder switched on and all transport controls on the recorder itself otherwise locked, the remote can still be used to start/stop recording, requiring only a direct line of sight to the top of the recorder.  Alternately, IR control can be switched off entirely in the system menu if desired.  It's an effective substitute for modern bluetooth control from a phone.
It also is a good match for this OP's situation. I have never used the remote, but I probably should try it sometime.

Fascinating—I only saw this just as I was about to take the plunge on an A10! The remote functionality thereof I thought would be rather useful for stealthing, as with the size. Is the only advantage of the A10 over the DR-2D the fact that it is smaller and can be controlled by a phone? Both are handy, but when I can get a DR-2D for less than a quarter of the price of the A10 (and the A10 seems to be universally out of stock new and pretty much all second-hand ones going for way over RRP), the former seems rather more attractive...
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Re: Stealth low-sensitivity setup from scratch
« Reply #33 on: August 27, 2021, 05:24:50 PM »
the price of the A10 (and the A10 seems to be universally out of stock new and pretty much all second-hand ones going for way over RRP), the former seems rather more attractive...
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Re: Stealth low-sensitivity setup from scratch
« Reply #34 on: October 09, 2021, 11:46:57 AM »
Seeing as we’re talking decks, thought I’d just post the family photo…

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Re: Stealth low-sensitivity setup from scratch
« Reply #35 on: October 10, 2021, 05:44:41 PM »
Seeing as we’re talking decks, thought I’d just post the family photo…

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