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Recording on a Smart Phone?
« on: October 31, 2021, 12:38:31 PM »
I stealth tape quite a bit and love the idea of being able to record on my phone.  I've tested quite a few phones and apps with external mics and have found the following:

1.  Most phones don't support true stereo recording (some do)
2.  No apps support true stereo recording (they say they do but it's actually split mono)
3.  No apps support recording above 16bit/48kHz
4.  No phones support SPL above 100

I'm wondering if anyone has done any research on this topic and has come across a combination that works.  Ultimately I'd like a smartphone/app combo that can:

1.  Record in true stereo (not split mono tracks)
2.  Record uncompressed WAV at 24bit/96kHz
3.  Provides some gain control to allow recording of loud sources above 110SPL

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Re: Recording on a Smart Phone?
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2021, 02:22:24 PM »
dpa 4061 + dpa d:vice > iPhone/iPod Touch (won't work with Android).

Records 24 bit. Unsure if it's split mono or true stereo.
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Re: Recording on a Smart Phone?
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2021, 02:32:28 PM »
dpa 4061 + dpa d:vice > iPhone/iPod Touch (won't work with Android).

Records 24 bit. Unsure if it's split mono or true stereo.

Which iOS app are you using to record?

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Re: Recording on a Smart Phone?
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2021, 02:33:32 PM »
Check out the Shure MV88.
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Re: Recording on a Smart Phone?
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2021, 03:00:48 PM »
dpa 4061 + dpa d:vice > iPhone/iPod Touch (won't work with Android).

Records 24 bit. Unsure if it's split mono or true stereo.

Which iOS app are you using to record?

Apogee Metarecorder.
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Re: Recording on a Smart Phone?
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2021, 04:33:59 PM »
Sennheiser Ambeo headset, Apogee MetaRecorder and an iPhone

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Re: Recording on a Smart Phone?
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2021, 04:36:20 PM »
Check out the Shure MV88.

That looks super clunky for stealth taping. Have you used it?
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Re: Recording on a Smart Phone?
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2021, 06:03:22 PM »
Check out the Shure MV88.

That looks super clunky for stealth taping. Have you used it?

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Re: Recording on a Smart Phone?
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2021, 06:24:48 PM »
dpa 4061 + dpa d:vice > iPhone/iPod Touch (won't work with Android).

Records 24 bit. Unsure if it's split mono or true stereo.

Can anyone confirm if this records in true stereo or split mono?

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Re: Recording on a Smart Phone?
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2021, 07:52:11 PM »
Sennheiser Ambeo headset, Apogee MetaRecorder and an iPhone

Wow that headset looks really interesting if the quality is decent, any recording examples?

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Re: Recording on a Smart Phone?
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2021, 12:55:02 PM »
Sennheiser Ambeo headset, Apogee MetaRecorder and an iPhone

Wow that headset looks really interesting if the quality is decent, any recording examples?

I have this setup too. Here are a few samples.  The Superchunk set was at a particularly bad sounding venue and I was too close to the stage. The Pigface set was loud and not the best sounding venue (but not horrible). The Bob Dylan set was at a very good sounding venue, but I made the mistake of getting too FOB so there are chompers on the recording.

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Re: Recording on a Smart Phone?
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2021, 10:45:30 AM »
I tried using a line-in adapter with an iphone 4s - it recorded stereo, 24-bit 48KHZ but unfortunately picked up some digital interference that would pulse about every 10 seconds, making the recording unusable. I haven't tried to isolate the issue.

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Re: Recording on a Smart Phone?
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2021, 07:18:51 PM »
AI-Micro from Rode is on its way to me... I shall report in due course.

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Re: Recording on a Smart Phone?
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2021, 07:44:29 AM »
Found this thread looking for similar info.  I'll be using an iPod touch with metarecorder on Friday, but I'm a bit concerned about the quality of my battery.  Is there an equivalent on Android that would work with a class 2 usb connection?  Just wondering for a backup option.  Thanks!
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Re: Recording on a Smart Phone?
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2021, 12:35:49 PM »
dpa 4061 + dpa d:vice > iPhone/iPod Touch (won't work with Android).

Records 24 bit. Unsure if it's split mono or true stereo.

Can anyone confirm if this records in true stereo or split mono?


You should download the MetaRecorder User Guide

https://apogeedigital.com/pdf/MetaRecorder-User-Guide-may2016.pdf


Scenes > Scene Settings > Input Channel Config

Tap the desired input channel configuration.

The configurations available for selection are determined by the audio hardware in use. For example, when
using the iPhone’s internal mic, only the Mono (Left) config may be selected.

When audio hardware has two input channels (such as Apogee’s ONE, Duet, DPA d:vice, then any config may be
chosen:


Stereo - Records both hardware inputs into one stereo audio file.

Mono (Left) - Records the left input into one mono audio file.

Mono (Right) - Records the right input into one mono audio file.

Dual Mono - Records each input into its own mono file.

« Last Edit: December 16, 2021, 12:43:24 PM by dactylus »
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