Topic: Soundboard levels and the R4

[balou2]

So, I've been LOVING my R4 lately, and been a nasty little slut- pulling 4 channel recordings like there's no tomorrow.

Standard setup=
Channels 1,2 for my 184's>V3>R4
Channels 3,4 for soundboard outs

I have no issues with channels 1 and 2, but EVERY recording I've made, yields channels 3 and 4 being super hot.  Hot to the point of having the input dials on the
R4 turned all the way off, and having to run the limiter in order to prevent the dreaded clipping.  All of this AFTER I ensure that the board signal is turned down.

I'd prefer not to run the limiter, but it's the only way I can avoid clipping, and aside from adding pads or DI's of some kind, between the board and R4, it's my choice.

Does all this sound normal?

[Shawn]

I've only made a few board pulls with the R4, but I've never had this problem. are you running line in on the SBD channels?

[rokpunk]

are you running channels 3 and 4 at line level or mic level? i've never had an issue with the soundboard levels being too hot for my R4.
the other thing to consider is are the soundboard outputs +4dbv or -10dbv?

[bgalizio]

I've had this problem before, using the XLR matrix outs. Just kindly ask the sound guy to turn the levels on it way down when he's plugging you in. I'm friendly with our local sound guy, so he lets me turn the dial myself.

Never had any problems with RCA tape outs. In fact, I have to turn the gain up for those.

If it's still a problem, invest in some attenuators.

[balou2]

Line in.  Volume on two different boards was turned all the way down.  Weird, hey?  I've gone through all the standard "can you turn me down" etc....  Is it possible that line inputs are defective and overly-sensitive?

[bgalizio]

Line in.  Volume on two different boards was turned all the way down.  Weird, hey?  I've gone through all the standard "can you turn me down" etc....  Is it possible that line inputs are defective and overly-sensitive?

Try recording a sine wave from your computer's line-out using channels 1 or 2 first, then 3 & 4, each with the gain in the same position (gain totally off would probably be easiest). If there's any sort of difference, I'd contact Edirol.

[balou2]

Line in.  Volume on two different boards was turned all the way down.  Weird, hey?  I've gone through all the standard "can you turn me down" etc....  Is it possible that line inputs are defective and overly-sensitive?

Try recording a sine wave from your computer's line-out using channels 1 or 2 first, then 3 & 4, each with the gain in the same position (gain totally off would probably be easiest). If there's any sort of difference, I'd contact Edirol.

Hey...+t.  Hadn't thought of that.  Muchas Gracias.

[BayTaynt3d]

I've probably done 20 matrixes with my R4 and have gotton close to clipping but never done so. The few times it's been a close call were on martix outs via XLRs. If this is happening to you in the same venue all of the time, maybe you could run some in-line attenuators. But considering my 20+ experiences, that does seem a little weird. Maybe they thought they were turning down that out, but really were turning down something else?