A friend of mine has a pair - very nice. A small step down from the VR4's. I believe they used the same mid/high compartment as the VR4, but a different bass (a single 10" vs. dual 8"). Oddly enough, the biggest difference I heard was the bass - not quite as tight as the VR4, a little boomy, but they were also in different rooms and that can have a major influence on the bass. I think he paid $700-750 used for his last summer. At that price it was a no-brainer.