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Re: Taping an outdoor concert
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2012, 06:15:28 PM »
I'm not familiar with the DR-40 or the PFA, just saying you want to check settings. You should have been able to test this at home before taking it out to a concert- if it brick walls at 0 then it will brick wall when you record your home stereo. The 853's need to be supplied with the correct voltage, and if you brick walling your mic in, you at least need to try setting it to line in or plugging into line in instead. Either the mics are getting too much voltage or the recorder is. The reason you can get brickwalling at 0 is that the adjustment happens after the signal has already passed through some circuitry that can not handle the signal. I can't say exactly what it is but you need to try something different obviously, or perhaps you have toasted your 853's with too high a phantom voltage. Have you ever made this rig run correctly?
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Re: Taping an outdoor concert
« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2012, 07:55:20 PM »
What do you 853's terminate in? Just a 1/8" miniplug, or a xlr with a power module like the AT8533x?
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Re: Taping an outdoor concert
« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2012, 08:02:37 AM »
I'm using At853 (minijack end) with Naiant PFA. I tried them at home with my stereo but with another pair of caps and the didn't raise the peak level at 0, not at all... I have to give them 30 more or less with LOUD music. Also in the TASCAM DR40 is just one posible selection to record through XLR with Phantom called MIC+Phantom that is what I used. I'm going to try at home now with the same caps that I used in the concert...
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Re: Taping an outdoor concert
« Reply #33 on: May 22, 2012, 11:09:06 AM »
Well, that looks about right. I'd still go through all of the settings and switches. Maybe you have a switch or setting to add attenuation to the input, or an input boost option that needs to be turned off.
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Re: Taping an outdoor concert
« Reply #34 on: May 22, 2012, 11:54:15 AM »
I'm trying to find it! Thank you both for your help.
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Re: Taping an outdoor concert
« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2012, 09:04:58 AM »
Is there any trick to avoid claps in the recording? I have a few concerts taped with MM-HSLO and I love the sound even with the background chatting noise but...CLAPS are horrible.
Adobe Audition "Auto-Heal" function works great to cure loud clapping. it's a hard and boring work if you've got a lot of them cause you have to find them and cure them one by one but it can really help
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Re: Taping an outdoor concert
« Reply #36 on: November 01, 2012, 12:47:12 PM »
Is there any trick to avoid claps in the recording? I have a few concerts taped with MM-HSLO and I love the sound even with the background chatting noise but...CLAPS are horrible.
Adobe Audition "Auto-Heal" function works great to cure loud clapping. it's a hard and boring work if you've got a lot of them cause you have to find them and cure them one by one but it can really help

I haven't had to tape in the rain, but I've had several less than perfect outings as most new tapers do. While disappointing I always learn something. For a long time I sat on the sidelines thinking about recording but worrying about all the pitfalls rather than just diving in and pushing forward. Now I'm in the deep end and loving it!

Being new, I'm thinking I need to look into this "Auto-Heal" capability to see if I can fix some things I wasn't so good at manually in Sound Forge. For example, I learned the hard way that while it's not so obtrusive to move the levels on the recorder a bit during a show if you have to, switching the gain level on a preamp leaves an ugly pop. Fixing that without cutting out the section is tough.



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