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Re: Jb3 wav probs
« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2004, 06:26:14 AM »
Are you sure you don't have the SP-SPSB-1?
That one has an optional level controller and bass roll-off.

Anyways, what you do is increase the levels out of your battery box.
Don't be afraid to increase it quite a bit.
From personal experience you need some serious out levels from that equipment to brickwall the Nomad 3s line-in.
Mine is, as mentioned above, usually around 4/5 of max.
I record loud rock/metall/garage rock.

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Re: Jb3 wav probs
« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2004, 06:38:29 AM »
I am pretty sure my invoice said it was 3, the picture looks more like mine too.
I can check this when i get home.
So my battery box is classed as a pre amp?
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Re: Jb3 wav probs
« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2004, 12:25:49 PM »
I have the optional bass roll off and the level changer.
Does that make it a preamp? when i bought it the slimline version has these optionals, however it doesnt seem to anymore?
Sorry for the confusion.

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there are many different batter boxes that SP makes, They all start with SP-SPSB but they differ in the number, like 1, 2, 3 etc.  You probably have the 1 or the 2, and no, bass roll-off does not give you levels

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Re: Jb3 wav probs
« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2004, 12:56:26 PM »
Regardless of model number , it has bass roll off AND level changer which I do use, although its been concluded not enough!!
Does a battery box with a level changer come under the generic name of pre amp?
I have been doing more reading today. Regarding a/d converters. I assume the JB3 has one built in?
If so, whats the drivers in getting an external one? Much improvement?
Does it still go into line in if i do get one?

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Re: Jb3 wav probs
« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2004, 12:29:16 AM »
a/d's are aaolog digital concerters.  They are the units that turn an analog signal into a digital one that a computer orJBe can record onto.   JB3s will use their internal adc if you plug into the JB3 a line-in.

No drivers are needed for an exteral JB3, just some recent firmware. 

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Re: Jb3 wav probs
« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2004, 02:30:39 AM »
when i said drivers, i didnt mean pc drivers, maybe I should have said "influential factors"!
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Re: Jb3 wav probs
« Reply #36 on: June 13, 2004, 02:54:53 PM »
While on the topic of JB3 wav probs... well not really a problem but an observation when recording Line-IN. I've noticed everytime that the wavs when graphiced are always normalized like when I have a minidisc recording with the levels set at automatic. I guess this can save me a step in normalizing but this type of recording tends to also increase the crowd noise during the more quiet moments of a show. I prefer to tape with the levels set at manual and normalize later. comments anyone?

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Re: Jb3 wav probs
« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2004, 03:06:19 PM »
While on the topic of JB3 wav probs... well not really a problem but an observation when recording Line-IN. I've noticed everytime that the wavs when graphiced are always normalized like when I have a minidisc recording with the levels set at automatic. I guess this can save me a step in normalizing but this type of recording tends to also increase the crowd noise during the more quiet moments of a show. I prefer to tape with the levels set at manual and normalize later. comments anyone?



Levels should always be on manual.
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Re: Jb3 wav probs
« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2004, 03:28:22 PM »
I am pretty sure my invoice said it was 3, the picture looks more like mine too.
I can check this when i get home.
So my battery box is classed as a pre amp?

Nope, it is a battery box with variable attenuation... In other words if you set the level to the max it would be the same as running a plain battery box.  As you run the sliders down you are attenuating (cutting) the signal down, this is useful for hot mics and loud music. 
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Re: Jb3 wav probs
« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2004, 03:17:30 AM »
Sorry to be a pain just want to get this clear ..
I dont have a preamp. Should I want one for stealthing?
I am an a/d converter built into the JB3, should I consider an external one?
I think phantom power looks a good option.

My upgrade path :
Phantom power
preamp?
a/d converter?

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Re: Jb3 wav probs
« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2004, 05:43:39 AM »
those are all great upgrades.  But they must be decided up space, price, quality, etc.

I think your list is in the right order

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Re: Jb3 wav probs
« Reply #41 on: June 14, 2004, 12:32:52 PM »
All of those upgrades could be handled by the UA-5.  Unfortunately, it is not easy to stealth (although others have done it).

The problem is, the more you upgrade, the bigger the equipment gets, the harder it is to stealth.  If you are going to stealth, here's what I would recommend:  stick with the equipment that you have, but run your battery box off of  2 9V batteries (giving you 18V).  It's the cheap easy way to get more SPL out of your mics.  I did it for a Dream Theater concert and it worked great.
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Re: Jb3 wav probs
« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2004, 02:06:20 PM »
Is this the baby ? http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/category.cgi?item=ED-UA-5&type=store

The link about details dont work, any idea about sizes? I like the all in one idea. Saves carrying lots of stuff.
At the moment, I can fit the JB3 in my pocket with my batt box. the other pocket is free (i can stick my fags in my back pocket  :) ).
About this 2x9v scenario, do I need to mod the box?

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Re: Jb3 wav probs
« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2004, 03:04:54 PM »
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Re: Jb3 wav probs
« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2004, 03:12:07 PM »
Hmmm ... no sizes?
Looks like it would be a tight fit in the old sky rocket, and there are no hold buttons?
Wouldnt be any good if its a tight squeeze.
I dont do bags, I feel more obvious.
Oh well.....
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