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Title: Headphones at shows??
Post by: BCostigan on November 02, 2003, 02:08:23 PM
Just curious who uses headphones at shows and who doesn't?   I used to but they really didn't help at all.  You have a pretty good idea what's going on via the levels.


The one reason I can see having headphones is they are pretty helpful when troubleshooting......I just always hope I never have to do that at a show. ;)
Title: Re:Headphones at shows??
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on November 02, 2003, 02:11:34 PM
Out of the 5 or 6 shows I've taped, I've only really used them once...  I'll listen every once in a while, but at a recent bluegrass show, I listened almost the whole way through the show with headphones...  I had SBD access and was sitting next to a bunch of loud annoying college kids...  It was nice being able to tune them out and get a nice clean sound...

T

Title: Re:Headphones at shows??
Post by: cpclark on November 02, 2003, 03:33:39 PM
i tried using them when i first started taping, but they really dont do much, i just check the levels all the time, thats all i need to pull a sick tape
Title: Re:Headphones at shows??
Post by: John Kelly on November 02, 2003, 03:54:44 PM
I'll usually use them during the opening of the show, just to make sure there's nothing wrong (I've had problems with diginoise in the past, so I need to make sure the recording is clean).  But after my initial check they go unused for the rest of the show.
Title: Re:Headphones at shows??
Post by: Brian Skalinder on November 02, 2003, 05:17:08 PM
I only use 'em at shows for multi-set performances, but even then, rarely.  All-day or multi-day festivals, though, I use 'em to check out different configs, figure out what config I'm liking best during the warm-up acts so I can use it during the headliners.
Title: Re:Headphones at shows??
Post by: 1st set only on November 03, 2003, 01:22:45 PM
I just picked up a hearing protection head set. for 3 bucks at building 19 (MA only) they really block out outside sounds well. my plan is to use some in ear plugs probably koss in combination with the protectors. I took the ear cups off the head band becaus I would just look fuckin stupid with it on. this way it just looks like im cupping my ears.
Title: Re:Headphones at shows??
Post by: blu666z on November 03, 2003, 01:27:26 PM
Never tried.  Always just trust my levels and let what happens...happen.

-Kevin
Title: Re:Headphones at shows??
Post by: John R on November 03, 2003, 02:18:32 PM
use them a lot when archiving.  the boards sound better than the pa if you've got the right enginer. and you can pick up a lot of the on-stage banter between the artists that the audience never hears.

jr

Title: Re:Headphones at shows??
Post by: Tim on November 03, 2003, 05:52:39 PM
I'll usually use them during the opening of the show, just to make sure there's nothing wrong (I've had problems with diginoise in the past, so I need to make sure the recording is clean).  But after my initial check they go unused for the rest of the show.

unless you run a 4 head deck this is pointless, you're not hearing what is being written to the tape...
Title: Re:Headphones at shows??
Post by: John Kelly on November 04, 2003, 10:49:12 AM
unless you run a 4 head deck this is pointless, you're not hearing what is being written to the tape...

Tape?  What's a tape?  I record to a laptop. ;)
Title: Re:Headphones at shows??
Post by: gonads on November 04, 2003, 12:15:00 PM
you have diginoise with a laptop?

I always thought diginoise was a result of dirty/bad heads....
Title: Re:Headphones at shows??
Post by: Nick's Picks on November 04, 2003, 12:47:04 PM
I tell ya...
I used headphones and an airhead amp for a long time (beyer dt-250s).  The final result...hearing damage trying to drive them over the ambient noise floor.

They were never needed until I got into recording with stereo mics where you could adjust poloar patterns remotely.  Then monitoring became a must, and I bought Etymotics.  Had I just bought those orignaly, I would still have my hearing at 100% today.  They isolate Soooooo well, you dont need to crank up the volume to hear them.

Now that i'm back to normal mics, I dont need them anymore.
Title: Re:Headphones at shows??
Post by: teamakg on November 04, 2003, 02:34:08 PM
used to but see no reason anymore.   just one more thing to drag around.
Title: Re:Headphones at shows??
Post by: wbrisette on November 04, 2003, 02:48:22 PM
I use the Etyomotic 4S earphones. However, I will point out that normally I use 4 mics, so I need them to mix with. Until I bought the Etyomotic earphones, it was a crapshoot. Sometimes I could get a good tape, other times I wished I hadn't bothered. But again, with multiple mics you need the ability to adjust things.


Wayne
Title: Re:Headphones at shows??
Post by: rabhan on November 06, 2003, 10:14:35 AM
ER4-P's are the schnizzle!
Title: Re:Headphones at shows??
Post by: hoobash on November 06, 2003, 02:34:00 PM
I dont use them. I can tell by look at my levels how things are going. Headphones are just more gear to carry in the field