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minimum spacing for omnis
« on: July 09, 2005, 11:57:56 AM »
whats the minimum? i'm trying to keep the caps under an umbrella. seems i can get about a 2 foot spread. that ok? jdisc is out as this rig needs to travel by air.
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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2005, 12:40:05 PM »
Jdisc is an easy item to ship flat..  any chance of just UPS the thing a few days early to where you are staying?

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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2005, 01:14:35 PM »
Quote from: ts on July 09, 2005, 11:57:56 AM
whats the minimum? i'm trying to keep the caps under an umbrella. seems i can get about a 2 foot spread. that ok? jdisc is out as this rig needs to travel by air.

i have run 12" before

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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2005, 03:07:42 PM »
Quote from: CQBert on July 09, 2005, 12:40:05 PM
Jdisc is an easy item to ship flat..  any chance of just UPS the thing a few days early to where you are staying?

CQBert

I guess i could, just don't feel like dealing with the disc this trip. i use it at local outdoor shows and that's about it. i want to try omnis at red rocks.
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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2005, 03:34:04 PM »
All good - just a thought..
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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2005, 07:17:50 PM »
I'd jdisc it

from the section at red rocks you'd need more than 2 feet (imo) to prevent a "mono" sounding tape

why not bring a clamp and run on 2 different stands?
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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2005, 07:53:38 PM »
Quote from: Tim on July 09, 2005, 07:17:50 PM
I'd jdisc it

from the section at red rocks you'd need more than 2 feet (imo) to prevent a "mono" sounding tape

why not bring a clamp and run on 2 different stands?

if you sold your miniDPAs, do you still have the jdisc you made for them..?
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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2005, 08:07:38 PM »
jdisc was damaged while travelling, sorry :)
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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2005, 08:24:42 PM »
Quote from: Tim on July 09, 2005, 08:07:38 PM
jdisc was damaged while travelling, sorry :)

+t for the response...

looks like i am going to have to make this thing after all...
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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2005, 08:26:01 PM »
it wasn't too hard

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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2005, 08:09:29 AM »
Quote from: macdaddy on July 09, 2005, 08:24:42 PM
Quote from: Tim on July 09, 2005, 08:07:38 PM
jdisc was damaged while travelling, sorry :)

+t for the response...

looks like i am going to have to make this thing after all...

Macdaddy, It was really very simple.
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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2005, 08:25:11 AM »
Quote from: BigRay on July 10, 2005, 08:09:29 AM
Quote from: macdaddy on July 09, 2005, 08:24:42 PM
Quote from: Tim on July 09, 2005, 08:07:38 PM
jdisc was damaged while travelling, sorry :)

+t for the response...

looks like i am going to have to make this thing after all...

Macdaddy, It was really very simple.
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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2005, 08:31:48 AM »
Quote from: Bean on July 10, 2005, 08:25:11 AM
Quote from: BigRay on July 10, 2005, 08:09:29 AM
Quote from: macdaddy on July 09, 2005, 08:24:42 PM
Quote from: Tim on July 09, 2005, 08:07:38 PM
jdisc was damaged while travelling, sorry :)

+t for the response...

looks like i am going to have to make this thing after all...

Macdaddy, It was really very simple.
Ray


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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2005, 03:05:10 PM »
How about an easily transportable, disposable hrtf-like baffle?  ;)
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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2005, 03:36:26 PM »
yea but you could always sell the balloon after the show... 1 for 3 or 2 for 5

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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2005, 04:00:07 PM »
This is my 'lite guy' ;)
Sounds better than it might look like.
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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2005, 04:09:57 PM »
Quote from: Tim on July 10, 2005, 03:36:26 PM
yea but you could always sell the balloon after the show... 1 for 3 or 2 for 5

;)

LMAO TIM

+T in 12.

I Do miss raves though.  :P
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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2005, 04:13:37 PM »
aint nothin wrong with gude head.
i LOVE gude head.
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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2005, 04:32:17 PM »
how come my threads always get hijacked? must mean i'm a geek 8)
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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2005, 05:58:37 PM »
Quote from: m0k3 on July 10, 2005, 04:12:11 PM
This is Gude Head

click on the pic for more of Gude Head, in his different party wear fashions.
Its surface seems a bit too hard and reflective, don't you think?
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« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2005, 06:01:59 PM »
Quote from: ts on July 10, 2005, 04:32:17 PM
how come my threads always get hijacked? must mean i'm a geek 8)

hijacked??
dont you like head?

what kind of man are you? 8)

especially when the women take their dentures out.
mmmmmmmmmm
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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2005, 07:51:43 AM »
Quote from: m0k3 on July 10, 2005, 06:17:57 PM
Quote from: greenmachine on July 10, 2005, 05:58:37 PM
Quote from: m0k3 on July 10, 2005, 04:12:11 PM
This is Gude Head

click on the pic for more of Gude Head, in his different party wear fashions.
Its surface seems a bit too hard and reflective, don't you think?

It was designed by Sennheiser engineers to be "human like" in its feature and density.
It was my first baffle.
We are a lot more refined today than we were back in the day.

Why do you think a j-disk would be superior?
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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2005, 11:01:28 AM »
moke, do you always have your mics pointed upward like that when running HRTF?  I tend to run them pretty much horizontal for comfort's sake.  Wonder if there'd be much difference in the sound.
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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2005, 11:13:06 AM »
ok. Cool.

I use pretty much the same HRTF headband as you and find I can't really get it pointed upward too much without discomfort. Been happy with the results nonetheless, so I guess I won't worry too much.
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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2005, 04:30:12 PM »
Quote from: m0k3 on July 11, 2005, 11:24:36 AM
...The sound was always way too bright, as it was collected reflections, rather than a more direct mic'ing...

You might want to give it a try with a more absorbing surface.
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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2005, 06:08:38 PM »
What if you would use a head-like sphere, but without the certain coloring of the pinna?
I think it wouldn't be true binaural anymore, but more versatile for real world playback.
Does mounting microphones close to a surface color the sound too much, could this be the reason why you prefer j-disc (with a healthy distance between the mikes and the disc)?
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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2005, 01:48:43 PM »
Quote from: spreadheadtom on July 09, 2005, 01:14:35 PM
Quote from: ts on July 09, 2005, 11:57:56 AM
whats the minimum? i'm trying to keep the caps under an umbrella. seems i can get about a 2 foot spread. that ok? jdisc is out as this rig needs to travel by air.

i have run 12" before

http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=19166

 Tommy

sounds nice. how far from the stacks? pointed straight or angled? with that great sound at red rocks this might be worth trying. thanks.

Tony
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Re: minimum spacing for omnis
« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2005, 05:26:55 PM »
Quote from: ts on July 13, 2005, 01:48:43 PM
Quote from: spreadheadtom on July 09, 2005, 01:14:35 PM
Quote from: ts on July 09, 2005, 11:57:56 AM
whats the minimum? i'm trying to keep the caps under an umbrella. seems i can get about a 2 foot spread. that ok? jdisc is out as this rig needs to travel by air.

i have run 12" before

http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=19166

 Tommy

sounds nice. how far from the stacks? pointed straight or angled? with that great sound at red rocks this might be worth trying. thanks.

Tony

please let me know your results bud, because im running the same mics and havent had a chance to run the 62's yet :)
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