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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: hoyt on September 02, 2023, 11:36:34 AM

Title: DPA 4023s vs DPA 4011ers
Post by: hoyt on September 02, 2023, 11:36:34 AM
I'm not sure if this will be of interest to anyone else, but since I did it, I might as well share it. Here's the back story:

I had been hearing a buzz in one channel of my dpa 4023 set every few shows. It was very light and only every 3 or 4 shows. One show it was constant, so I assumed the cable wasn't plugged in right. I set the pair up in my office and let it run for hours and never noticed it. I swapped cables, swapped preamp sources, etc and could not isolate what the issue was. I finally decided to send them into DPA in Colorado to have them evaluated. The Denmark crew is the only group that will look at the 402x series anymore. They evaluated them and said basically, "both are out of spec. we'll sell you an extra set of 4023s for $1800." While a good deal, I decided to ask about an upgrade to the modular series and they gave me a 40% discount, which I jumped at. I assumed they would keep my "bad" 4023s because of the discount on the 4011s. To my surprise, when I opened the package from Denmark, I got a new set of 4011s, with the MMP-ER cables and my 4023s. I decided I needed to compare the two with the same preamp to see how "bad" they really were. At a DMB show in Bend, OR (open air amphitheater), I ran the 4011s and 4023s into a Sonosax sx-r4+, and my 4028s into my sx-m2d2. My initial listen shows no audible difference between the 4023s and 4011s. However, I had the gain about 7 db higher on the 4023 pair - so that's significant.

Here's a link to the 3 sources: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hHTI_EDOzVnzK61EwmZJcxgmUE3hhmR_&usp=drive_fs
Title: Re: DPA 4023s vs DPA 4011ers
Post by: Colin Liston on September 02, 2023, 03:55:42 PM
I am currently in the same boat.  I had a dented housing on one of my 4023s and sent the to Denmark, via CO.  I was given an estimate to repair my pair and bring back to original spec.  and now I am currently waiting for a price on the following to bring them up to date with the new 4011 series.
This is the price I am waiting for:
modular upgrade fee (per capsule)
matching (per pair)
preamp MMP-ES offered for each capsule

I am looking to sell my original 4023's so I don't think upgrading is what I am looking to do but I am interested in what the cost would be and what they would sound like
Title: Re: DPA 4023s vs DPA 4011ers
Post by: hoyt on September 02, 2023, 05:40:21 PM
This is the price I am waiting for:
modular upgrade fee (per capsule)
matching (per pair)
preamp MMP-ES offered for each capsule

Keep us updated. I feel like pricing has changed a few times for this service. The last person I know who looked into it decided to sell their 402x and buy the 4011+mmp straight up because it was a better net pricing. DPA didn't give me upgrade fee prices because my caps were out of spec (evidently by about 7 db!).
Title: Re: DPA 4023s vs DPA 4011ers
Post by: morst on September 03, 2023, 02:05:29 AM
I'm not sure if this will be of interest to anyone else
me
Title: Re: DPA 4023s vs DPA 4011ers
Post by: phil_er_up on September 03, 2023, 07:32:21 AM
See this thread for more info. I did the conversion DPA4022 to DPA4011. Also did DPA4027 to DPA4015.

DPA402X convert to new modular DPA mic series
https://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=197434.0