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Title: would this deck be ok for cassette transfers?
Post by: leehookem on February 13, 2012, 11:25:24 AM
Sony TC-WE625 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-Cassette-Player-TC-WE625-/150755290562

looking for options under 200
Title: Re: would this deck be ok for cassette transfers?
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on February 13, 2012, 11:46:47 AM
Sony TC-WE625 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-Cassette-Player-TC-WE625-/150755290562

looking for options under 200

These might be better...
http://austin.craigslist.org/ele/2822025610.html
http://austin.craigslist.org/ele/2803717851.html
http://austin.craigslist.org/ele/2798080217.html

http://austin.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=cassette&catAbb=ela&srchType=A&minAsk=&maxAsk=

Terry
Title: Re: would this deck be ok for cassette transfers?
Post by: leehookem on February 13, 2012, 11:57:30 AM
Thanks Terry.  I looked at all of those ads last night.  Just not familiar with cassette decks AT ALL to know what's good or not.  If all three were in tip top shape, which would you recommend?  I also have a Sony D6 at my disposal.  The one that actually recorded the masters.  Just need a power cable.  Would that be better?
Title: Re: would this deck be ok for cassette transfers?
Post by: leehookem on February 13, 2012, 12:02:04 PM
anybody know what size plug is needed for the D6.  I know it's 6V.
Title: Re: would this deck be ok for cassette transfers?
Post by: Belexes on February 13, 2012, 01:26:05 PM
I'd get one with manual azimuth control if at all possible. Nakamichi Dragons and DR-1's are very popular.  I have a DR-1 that does a great job and got it off Audiogon for somewhere in the $200 range.
Title: Re: would this deck be ok for cassette transfers?
Post by: thunderbolt on February 13, 2012, 04:56:48 PM
Thanks Terry.  I looked at all of those ads last night.  Just not familiar with cassette decks AT ALL to know what's good or not.  If all three were in tip top shape, which would you recommend?  I also have a Sony D6 at my disposal.  The one that actually recorded the masters.  Just need a power cable.  Would that be better?

IMO it's always better to transfer from the deck that recorded the master.  You don't have to worry about azimuth and alignment issues; it will be dead-on.  On the negative side, if you have dozens or hundreds of tapes to transfer, that's a lot of wear and tear for a D6 mechanism. 

I have a D6 and a proper power supply.  It's a Sony AC-D4L, 6V, 650 mA, but no longer available.  Ring is positive, tip is negative.
Dunno if this fleabay supply is any good or correct, but here's an example of a replacement:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Global-DC-6V-AC-Adapter-SONY-AC-D4L-ACD4L-Power-Supply-Cord-Wall-Charger-NEW-/350508877988?pt=Other_MP3_Player_Accessories&hash=item519bf508a4#ht_2715wt_1205

You should also be able to find something via Rat Shack.

If you elect to buy another deck, I'd echo the suggestion about a Nak; I have several and they are very robust.  I think the CR-series is underrated, if older (look for a CR-2 or CR-3).  You can get them dirt cheap on fleabay.  Regardless, I've never had Nak eat a tape in 25 years.

Good luck.
Title: Re: would this deck be ok for cassette transfers?
Post by: runonce on February 13, 2012, 06:31:17 PM
Thanks Terry.  I looked at all of those ads last night.  Just not familiar with cassette decks AT ALL to know what's good or not.  If all three were in tip top shape, which would you recommend?  I also have a Sony D6 at my disposal.  The one that actually recorded the masters.  Just need a power cable.  Would that be better?

IMO it's always better to transfer from the deck that recorded the master.  You don't have to worry about azimuth and alignment issues; it will be dead-on.  On the negative side, if you have dozens or hundreds of tapes to transfer, that's a lot of wear and tear for a D6 mechanism. 

I have a D6 and a proper power supply.  It's a Sony AC-D4L, 6V, 650 mA, but no longer available.  Ring is positive, tip is negative.


Nonsense - its a screw with a metal spring behind it - its subject to all sorts of temperature changes, jolts, jars etc...yeah - it might track properly, but you're better off making a sweep with the screwdriver just to be sure.

And the D6 was the worst of all the portable transports - notoriously flaky tracking on those things. Not recommended for transfers...

IMO - Any decent single direction deck is good choice...it doesnt have to be a NAK...
Title: Re: would this deck be ok for cassette transfers?
Post by: runonce on February 13, 2012, 06:48:22 PM
Sony TC-WE625 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-Cassette-Player-TC-WE625-/150755290562

looking for options under 200

Stick with a single direction deck...
Title: Re: would this deck be ok for cassette transfers?
Post by: leehookem on February 13, 2012, 07:38:44 PM
Thanks for the advice guys. Keep it coming. 
Title: Re: would this deck be ok for cassette transfers?
Post by: drewloo on February 13, 2012, 08:45:36 PM
Lee I have a 3-head Sony TC-615S that's been sitting in a closet you can have.  It's pretty dusty, though--would at the very least get a wet cleaner and clean the tape path. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWuSxYyxR04
Title: Re: would this deck be ok for cassette transfers?
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on February 14, 2012, 12:34:09 AM
Lee I have a 3-head Sony TC-615S that's been sitting in a closet you can have.  It's pretty dusty, though--would at the very least get a wet cleaner and clean the tape path. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWuSxYyxR04

Team Austin!

Terry
Title: Re: would this deck be ok for cassette transfers?
Post by: jlykos on February 14, 2012, 03:48:10 AM
I have a Sony ES deck and love it, the KA2ES.  The Sony ES decks sound great, but mine went out of alignment after around six years of incredibly heavy use.  The good thing is that they are relatively easy to realign and many A/V repair shops (even Best Buy) can fix it.  Personally, I would try to find an ES deck before a "regular" Sony deck, as the ES decks are better built, have better bias features, and most of them have three heads.
Title: Re: would this deck be ok for cassette transfers?
Post by: leehookem on February 14, 2012, 10:27:57 AM
Lee I have a 3-head Sony TC-615S that's been sitting in a closet you can have.  It's pretty dusty, though--would at the very least get a wet cleaner and clean the tape path. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWuSxYyxR04

Just sent you a text...
Title: Re: would this deck be ok for cassette transfers?
Post by: Govt Mule on February 14, 2012, 01:56:30 PM
the speed is off on the d6 most of the time. i would use it or buy a deck with adjustable speed or fix it in post
Title: Re: would this deck be ok for cassette transfers?
Post by: leehookem on February 14, 2012, 03:08:14 PM
Pat, in general?  Or on Jeffs?
Title: Re: would this deck be ok for cassette transfers?
Post by: thunderbolt on February 14, 2012, 03:45:24 PM
Thanks Terry.  I looked at all of those ads last night.  Just not familiar with cassette decks AT ALL to know what's good or not.  If all three were in tip top shape, which would you recommend?  I also have a Sony D6 at my disposal.  The one that actually recorded the masters.  Just need a power cable.  Would that be better?

IMO it's always better to transfer from the deck that recorded the master.  You don't have to worry about azimuth and alignment issues; it will be dead-on.  On the negative side, if you have dozens or hundreds of tapes to transfer, that's a lot of wear and tear for a D6 mechanism. 

I have a D6 and a proper power supply.  It's a Sony AC-D4L, 6V, 650 mA, but no longer available.  Ring is positive, tip is negative.


Nonsense - its a screw with a metal spring behind it - its subject to all sorts of temperature changes, jolts, jars etc...yeah - it might track properly, but you're better off making a sweep with the screwdriver just to be sure.

And the D6 was the worst of all the portable transports - notoriously flaky tracking on those things. Not recommended for transfers...

IMO - Any decent single direction deck is good choice...it doesnt have to be a NAK...

Nope, not nonsense, just your opinion.  I've made some transfers from the D6 that were fine.  There are far more crappy transports than a D6.  And as a general principle, deck choice aside, it is accepted practice that analog tape playback from the deck that recorded it is preferable, although it's true that this refers more to open reel than cassette.  I agree that any decent deck will probably do a good job, if it has been properly maintained.
Title: Re: would this deck be ok for cassette transfers?
Post by: runonce on February 14, 2012, 05:25:35 PM
Thanks Terry.  I looked at all of those ads last night.  Just not familiar with cassette decks AT ALL to know what's good or not.  If all three were in tip top shape, which would you recommend?  I also have a Sony D6 at my disposal.  The one that actually recorded the masters.  Just need a power cable.  Would that be better?

IMO it's always better to transfer from the deck that recorded the master.  You don't have to worry about azimuth and alignment issues; it will be dead-on.  On the negative side, if you have dozens or hundreds of tapes to transfer, that's a lot of wear and tear for a D6 mechanism. 

I have a D6 and a proper power supply.  It's a Sony AC-D4L, 6V, 650 mA, but no longer available.  Ring is positive, tip is negative.


Nonsense - its a screw with a metal spring behind it - its subject to all sorts of temperature changes, jolts, jars etc...yeah - it might track properly, but you're better off making a sweep with the screwdriver just to be sure.

And the D6 was the worst of all the portable transports - notoriously flaky tracking on those things. Not recommended for transfers...

IMO - Any decent single direction deck is good choice...it doesnt have to be a NAK...

Nope, not nonsense, just your opinion.  I've made some transfers from the D6 that were fine.  There are far more crappy transports than a D6.  And as a general principle, deck choice aside, it is accepted practice that analog tape playback from the deck that recorded it is preferable, although it's true that this refers more to open reel than cassette.  I agree that any decent deck will probably do a good job, if it has been properly maintained.

It may be preferable to play back on the original decks for some reasons...

But to say "You don't have to worry about azimuth and alignment issues" just because you have the mastering deck is...nonsense!

Even with the mastering deck, I'd still want to dial it in for each tape...

Cassette decks weren't the most accurate spec in the manufacturing world...lots of moving parts. Portables were particularly susceptible to problems.

The D6 was known for its warbly takeup at the beginning of tapes...and Im not sure its alignment system lends itself to repeated adjustment.
Title: Re: would this deck be ok for cassette transfers?
Post by: Govt Mule on February 14, 2012, 07:40:41 PM
all d6s tend to run slow so playback sounds fast on decks with the correct speed.
Title: Re: would this deck be ok for cassette transfers?
Post by: thunderbolt on February 14, 2012, 08:15:51 PM


It may be preferable to play back on the original decks for some reasons...

But to say "You don't have to worry about azimuth and alignment issues" just because you have the mastering deck is...nonsense!

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OK, gotcha, I think I misunderstood what you were originally saying.  Agreed.
Title: Re: would this deck be ok for cassette transfers?
Post by: kirk97132 on February 14, 2012, 09:25:49 PM
the speed is off on the d6 most of the time. i would use it or buy a deck with adjustable speed or fix it in post
D6 had quartz lock for speed control, but the D6 does have a manual  has speed control
Title: Re: would this deck be ok for cassette transfers?
Post by: leehookem on February 14, 2012, 10:39:32 PM
just fired up the D6.  It works!!!  Doesn't sound like the speed is off at all.  More to come...
Title: Re: would this deck be ok for cassette transfers?
Post by: leehookem on February 14, 2012, 10:48:12 PM
It's a Sony AC-D4L, 6V, 650 mA

I know when dealing with mA you have to feed it at least the required amount, so in this case 650.  How much over is acceptable?  I found this one at Best Buy.  http://www.dynexproducts.com/products/cables-cords-adapters/DX-AC1200.html  Is 1200mA too much?
Title: Re: would this deck be ok for cassette transfers?
Post by: Jackpine on February 15, 2012, 05:39:26 PM
That adapter will be fine, make sure to pay attention to polarity.

Denon also made some nice cassette decks.