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AKG Active Project part 4
« on: April 29, 2011, 01:42:53 PM »
part 3
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=93559.0

lots of fairly recent developments in the last pages of part 3
the way things are progressing it looks like part 4 may be where things come to life and Naiant Studio has a ck6_ active solution
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2011, 01:48:14 PM »
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2011, 02:22:07 PM »
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2011, 03:02:55 PM »
Dropping in to mark the thread.
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2011, 04:23:41 PM »
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2011, 05:01:55 PM »
Well if anyone knows the horn diameter/measurement for the back of the collette, I can try and start to work on a design that I have been wanting to get machined that would utilize actual AKG parts as well.
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2011, 08:09:37 PM »
something i thought about today that i don't recall talked about is cable length
i would like to go as long as 12 feet
Mics - AKG ck61/ck63 (c480b & Naiant actives), SP-BMC-2
XLR Cables - Silver Path w/Darktrain stubbies
Interconnect Cables - Dogstar (XLR), Darktrain (RCA > 1/8) (1/8 > 1/8), and Kind Kables (1/8f > 1/4)
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Recorders - PCM-M10 & DR-60D

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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2011, 11:17:31 PM »
something i thought about today that i don't recall talked about is cable length
i would like to go as long as 12 feet

Or longer. Up to 15' would be perfect IMO. If Jon uses Belden 1804a, its silver coated copper, and is much more flexible than Mil-Spec silver. I would also like the cabling techflexed together as an option, because I would never run split omnis/etc....
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2011, 11:18:23 PM »
And my 2nd rig would be ck63>TinyBox/AKG Actives Box/etc>Another Sony PCM-M10 or 722 ;)
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2011, 08:44:28 AM »
something i thought about today that i don't recall talked about is cable length
i would like to go as long as 12 feet

Or longer. Up to 15' would be perfect IMO
thats cool i have 15 feet now and it just seems i typically have to wrap some up on the bottom
Mics - AKG ck61/ck63 (c480b & Naiant actives), SP-BMC-2
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Interconnect Cables - Dogstar (XLR), Darktrain (RCA > 1/8) (1/8 > 1/8), and Kind Kables (1/8f > 1/4)
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2011, 06:22:20 PM »
Kick ass.

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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2011, 06:30:02 PM »
something i thought about today that i don't recall talked about is cable length
i would like to go as long as 12 feet

Small tip:
Get a set of colettes on 4' or 5' cables and terminate the ends with whatever has the required # of pins. Then just run the rest off of various lengths to the box. That way you can stealth, run open, splits, whatever.

I've got like 4 sets of cables at different lengths for my beyers that way, and 18" cables for each set of caps so I don't have to unplug the caps and risk messing up the pins in a dark room. If something goes wrong after wear/tear, I just replace the cables that run from my bodies to the 18" individuals, or re-terminate the 18" ones. Even better would be to get a set of colettes/cable extensions for each set of caps you have so you can virtually eliminate threading issues or pin issues on the colettes.
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2011, 09:23:13 PM »
I could avoid those problems with a 4-wire connection, but that would exclude the nanocon.  I would have to make the coupling larger to support a 4-pin mini-XLR; then I would use 1804a, but not wired as star quad.

Do you know the design particulars that allow Schoeps to offer a 10m cable with the kc5 active cables?  The cables are 3 conductor, btw.  Model #kc10g.

I prefer to keep my unbalanced runs as short as possible, and my kc5 cables are 6'.  That means I sometimes have bodies up on the ceiling, near the caps.  And then I can have long balanced runs back to the pre-amp (but I almost always run the bodies on the caps these days).

Have you looked at the Binder 711's?  They look good, and support a wide range of pin counts.  There seems to be a wide range of connector sizes in the series.

http://docs-europe.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/0b58/0900766b80b58292.pdf

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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2011, 10:19:15 PM »
i personally rather have "quality" over compact size
if it meant being 10mm longer for overall better results due to the cable i think it would prob be worth it
(assuming its not already a long coupler)
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2011, 10:35:43 PM »
So anyone have any thoughts on what the Gefell capsule requires in the way of a buffer circuit?  I've read the ck61's are similar to the Gefell caps, but I am not familiar with them.

The schoeps caps are a two pin connection, the Gefell one.

Edit:  Useful patent

http://www.google.com/patents?zoom=4&id=wXEkAAAAEBAJ&jtp=1
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