Topic: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50 PT II

[su6oxone]

This may be a retarded question, but the D50 can record 24bit with other sampling rates than just 96khz correct?  Like 44.1 and 48? 

[hoppedup]

This may be a retarded question, but the D50 can record 24bit with other sampling rates than just 96khz correct?  Like 44.1 and 48? 

Yes. It can record :

22.05/16
44.1/16
48/16
96/16
44.1/24
48/24
96/24

[su6oxone]

Yes. It can record :

22.05/16
44.1/16
48/16
96/16
44.1/24
48/24
96/24

Awesome, that's what I figured but wanted to make sure (planning on getting the PCM M10), thanks!

[612]

FWIW, UA-5 users, I just made some 24 bit recordings with both the RCA & 1/4" outs. Digi-out of the UA-5 is indeed a no go with the D50.

[notsofast]

I am buying a V3 from one of our fellow TS'ers and it has SPDIF out. From what I have read I should be OK with getting the 24 bit out to the D50, Correct?

Tim

[Brian Skalinder]

I am buying a V3 from one of our fellow TS'ers and it has SPDIF out. From what I have read I should be OK with getting the 24 bit out to the D50, Correct?

Depends on the V3's firmware/chip version:

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,95964.msg1671629.html#msg1671629

[notsofast]

It is being sent back to Grace for warranty work and my understanding is they will upgrade the chip set as well. Based on what I have read, thanks Brian, with the upgrade and firmware upgrade I should be OK. Guess we shall find out in a couple of weeks.

Tim

[frogger]

UA-5 > PCM-D50 question:

I took it out tonight. Set the UA-5 to output 48kHz. Set the D50 to record 24/48 but when I went to record the signal was bumped down to 16/48. Ended up taping everything @ 16/44.1 for simplicity's sake, telling myself I surely missed something in the manual.

As soon as I got home I set my rig back up and busted out the manual. Pages 29-30 discuss turning the "SYNC REC" option ON. I figured this may have been what I missed so I tried but still got bumped from 24/48 to 16/48 as soon as I hit the Record button. Up until I hit Record I see 24/48 in the corner and figure I'm good. What am I doing wrong?

I'm re-reading both threads (for at least the 2nd or 3rd time) but it's 2:52 AM.  Has anyone else had this problem running a UA-5 in front of the D50? TIA!

Edit: I'm running a TOSLINK > Mini cable out of the UA-5. Same as I did for UA-5 > iRiver h120 for example.

Was this ever resolved?  I have a good deal on a UA-5 but I want a 24/48 signal and all I'm getting is 16/48.  Tried searching but I'm not coming up with anything.  Thanks!

[frogger]

Was this ever resolved?  I have a good deal on a UA-5 but I want a 24/48 signal and all I'm getting is 16/48.  Tried searching but I'm not coming up with anything.  Thanks!

Okay, sorry, I see this was answered at the top of this page.    From what I read about the UA5 is that the signal always goes through the AD converter before the analog out and that isn't what I want.  Guess I'm going to have to look into one of Jon's Littlebox

[jlykos]

Just used the internal mics on the D50 for the first time at the MONO show on Saturday night.  The internals sound better than I imagined, but not anywhere close to even a decent pair of stealth cardioids or omnis.  Open sound and very sensitive, but the highs are shrill and lower bass frequencies are virtually nonexistent.  They did a decent job of capturing a recording of a show that I would not have otherwise had any way of taping, but don't rely on the internal microphones of doing justice to a critical recording.

[ilduclo]

I've had variable results with the internals. Just excellent on a couple of quiet shows, I found absolutely nothing wrong with them, including just great bass and crystal clear highs. One very loud show was pretty nice, too. Then a couple later, one where I had a very poor club sound system and the recording sounded as good as what I was hearing, then a couple of very loud shows with nearly overwhelming volume. These were just so/so. I think my dpa's would have done somewhat better on the last 2, but otherwise, I'm pretty impressed with the internals/ ymmv/

conclusion here, so far-----quiet shows, absolutely use the internals, fucking great results.

louder shows, maybe, maybe not, good sound system will probably do pretty well.....

[DeepCreatures]

after a newly purchased MTII was DOA, i returned it to Musician's Friends, got a return on my $, and purchased a new D50, which arrived today.

a big plug for Musician's Friend, who were really great in regards to the return item, and in price matching for the new D50, cutting $50 off the price.

i am very eager to record with this thing, which is good as I have a number of shows coming up over the next couple of weeks.

thanks tons for all the information - it was very helpful.  thanks to John for his trials w/the UA-5, which saved me an unusable cable purchase since UA-5>digital>D50 in 24-bits is shot.

peace,
ts

[mrsoul]

Bass (LCF).  If you are using your internals (or line input it seems) and the LCF is active, what do you set the range?  75Hz or 150Hz?  I accidently left the LCF active and it cut the bass on my line input from my preamp.  Not good and the bass response was pretty much dead. (LMA)  But, I do use it when I am using the internals outside. 

But, I am not 100% on where to set it.  Seems 75Hz is a lower bass range, is that correct?  So, the 75Hz filter would limit any responses below that range?  Likewise for 150Hz.  Seems you would be cutting closer to the "audible" bass if you use the 150Hz.  If that is correct, I guess 75Hz would be the preferred LCF range.  I am going to record bluegrass this weekend and will likely be using the internals or my SP BMC 12 omnis. 

Thanks for any suggestions. 

[ilduclo]

had another opportunity to use the internal mics, loud show, so/so sound system. ran 120 degree separation, nice results. was going to run mic in with dpa4061's, but the internals are just so easy.

[hoppedup]

I ran my internals hand-held for a campfire jam over the weekend. The crackle and pop from the fire gives it a vinyl kinda feel. It's clear as a bell.

If only that drunk chick had passed out a couple of hours earlier.