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Re: 24bit RELIABLE bit bucket to run behind V3
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2006, 03:07:08 PM »
i agree the tascam rocks, when i had mine, i had no issues at all, and tascam is a reliable company.  


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Re: 24bit RELIABLE bit bucket to run behind V3
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2006, 03:32:58 PM »


Have you got any pics of your setup? This looks like pretty cool stuff.
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I have the same setup.  It's not without quirks, but fairly reliable.

You can see generic pics at:

http://www.core-sound.com/pdaudio_system/1.php

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Re: 24bit RELIABLE bit bucket to run behind V3
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2006, 03:34:35 PM »


Have you got any pics of your setup? This looks like pretty cool stuff.

I have the same setup.  It's not without quirks, but fairly reliable.

You can see generic pics at:

http://www.core-sound.com/pdaudio_system/1.php

Good Luck in your search.
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What sort of quirks have you encountered?

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Re: 24bit RELIABLE bit bucket to run behind V3
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2006, 03:38:52 PM »
berg, maybe try to sell the v3 and pick up a v2 and run v2>lineout>671/hdp2 ???
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Re: 24bit RELIABLE bit bucket to run behind V3
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2006, 03:40:04 PM »
or just buy a acm 671, i can't really tell the difference between it and a v3....
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Re: 24bit RELIABLE bit bucket to run behind V3
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2006, 03:46:48 PM »
Going to keep the V3 for a long time I think... I'll probably just end up with a stock p2 or 671 eventually... or see what goodies the new year brings.

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Re: 24bit RELIABLE bit bucket to run behind V3
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2006, 03:52:30 PM »
Last time I checked, the 671 and HD-P2 were both significantly higher than the budget of $500, like in the neighborhood of $800-$1k.  Media will add another ~$100, though media prices continue to fall.

Sounds like the PDA route may get you close to your budget.  PDAudio-CF runs $200 + the s/w at $50.  If you can find a decent deal on the right PDA, you're right around your budget.  That may just be the way to go.

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Re: 24bit RELIABLE bit bucket to run behind V3
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2006, 03:54:13 PM »
Last time I checked, the 671 and HD-P2 were both significantly higher than the budget of $500, like in the neighborhood of $800-$1k.  Media will add another ~$100, though media prices continue to fall.

Sounds like the PDA route may get you close to your budget.  PDAudio-CF runs $200 + the s/w at $50.  If you can find a decent deal on the right PDA, you're right around your budget.  That may just be the way to go.

Perhaps the lesson here is that you get what you pay for:  inexpensive & slightly less reliable (for some), or more expensive but generally very reliable for all.

Very good points, which might lead me to wait several months, stick with 16bit iriver and 24bit macbook, until the financial situation allows for a more reliable purchase.

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Re: 24bit RELIABLE bit bucket to run behind V3
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2006, 03:57:54 PM »
Last time I checked, the 671 and HD-P2 were both significantly higher than the budget of $500, like in the neighborhood of $800-$1k.  Media will add another ~$100, though media prices continue to fall.

Sounds like the PDA route may get you close to your budget.  PDAudio-CF runs $200 + the s/w at $50.  If you can find a decent deal on the right PDA, you're right around your budget.  That may just be the way to go.

Perhaps the lesson here is that you get what you pay for:  inexpensive & slightly less reliable (for some), or more expensive but generally very reliable for all.

I would be careful with the PDA stuff.  Like a laptop, it just seems like one more thing to go wrong.

As far as 24bit, what is the hurry?  I use it on my R4, but more often than not, I use this so I can leave the levels low and run unattended.  If I'm going to run just two channels, 16 bit seems fine.  Even if you add 6-10dB in post, it is still nowhere near the noise floor of the rooms most of us record in :).

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Re: 24bit RELIABLE bit bucket to run behind V3
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2006, 04:04:03 PM »
Last time I checked, the 671 and HD-P2 were both significantly higher than the budget of $500, like in the neighborhood of $800-$1k.  Media will add another ~$100, though media prices continue to fall.

Sounds like the PDA route may get you close to your budget.  PDAudio-CF runs $200 + the s/w at $50.  If you can find a decent deal on the right PDA, you're right around your budget.  That may just be the way to go.

Perhaps the lesson here is that you get what you pay for:  inexpensive & slightly less reliable (for some), or more expensive but generally very reliable for all.

I would be careful with the PDA stuff.  Like a laptop, it just seems like one more thing to go wrong.

As far as 24bit, what is the hurry?  I use it on my R4, but more often than not, I use this so I can leave the levels low and run unattended.  If I'm going to run just two channels, 16 bit seems fine.  Even if you add 6-10dB in post, it is still nowhere near the noise floor of the rooms most of us record in :).

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Re: 24bit RELIABLE bit bucket to run behind V3
« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2006, 04:58:51 PM »
fwiw, so far, my pda-based system has been rock-solid.  I believe that the problems/quirkyness that plagued earlier versions of this concept were rooted in the need to use innovative solutions such as card splitter interfaces and external hard drives to obtain sufficient storage.  With the advent of 4gb sd cards, this is a thing of the past. 

Further, the current os for these pdas has proven itself to be quite robust.  A great feature/requirement is the need to perform a hard reboot before initiating the pdaudio software.  This causes the pda to load ONLY the core factory-installed programs and not whatever else one's installed on the system since purchase and, knock on wood, has allowed mine to perform quite reliably so far.  Another development that's def. helped is the relatively recent availability of faster processors for these pdas, which now allows for far more worry-free 24/96 recording.

Finally, a note on durability -- I carry mine around with me daily in a soft case and it's behaved quite will.  I've read reviews in which the reviewer was instructed to drop the axim onto a concrete floor from 10', did so repeatedly and found it suffered no ill effects.  I'm not so brave, but . . . .

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Re: 24bit RELIABLE bit bucket to run behind V3
« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2006, 05:18:04 PM »
fwiw, so far, my pda-based system has been rock-solid.  I believe that the problems/quirkyness that plagued earlier versions of this concept were rooted in the need to use innovative solutions such as card splitter interfaces and external hard drives to obtain sufficient storage.  With the advent of 4gb sd cards, this is a thing of the past. 

Further, the current os for these pdas has proven itself to be quite robust.  A great feature/requirement is the need to perform a hard reboot before initiating the pdaudio software.  This causes the pda to load ONLY the core factory-installed programs and not whatever else one's installed on the system since purchase and, knock on wood, has allowed mine to perform quite reliably so far.  Another development that's def. helped is the relatively recent availability of faster processors for these pdas, which now allows for far more worry-free 24/96 recording.

Finally, a note on durability -- I carry mine around with me daily in a soft case and it's behaved quite will.  I've read reviews in which the reviewer was instructed to drop the axim onto a concrete floor from 10', did so repeatedly and found it suffered no ill effects.  I'm not so brave, but . . . .

Sounds good, got any pics of your setup?

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Re: 24bit RELIABLE bit bucket to run behind V3
« Reply #27 on: December 18, 2006, 05:21:41 PM »
Ive been using the V3 > MT combo for ab00t a year now. with the latest firmware, things seem to work very well now :)

agree, I have had no problems with the current firmware. Only complaints now are the 2GB limit and no monitoring out of the headphone out when taking SPDIF in.

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Re: 24bit RELIABLE bit bucket to run behind V3
« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2006, 05:27:46 PM »
Not right now, I'll try to shoot some, basically, its a stock dell axim x51v with the cf card digital input sticking 1/2" out of the top --

One caveat, IMHO, the axim solution only would make sense if you have an independent use for a PDA -- if it's to be used solely for recording, you're likely better off holding out for a pdm671 or hd-p2.

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Re: 24bit RELIABLE bit bucket to run behind V3
« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2006, 05:31:39 PM »
Not right now, I'll try to shoot some, basically, its a stock dell axim x51v with the cf card digital input sticking 1/2" out of the top --

One caveat, IMHO, the axim solution only would make sense if you have an independent use for a PDA -- if it's to be used solely for recording, you're likely better off holding out for a pdm671 or hd-p2.

Yah, good point. I would only be buying it for recording purposes...

 

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