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What hyper cap do you prefer?

Gefell m21
16 (21.6%)
AKG 63
27 (36.5%)
Neumann
3 (4.1%)
Schoeps
25 (33.8%)
other
3 (4.1%)

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Hyper caps: What do your ears like?
« on: August 19, 2005, 12:17:44 AM »
I've only owned the AKG 63's, & loved them. They rocked with the 148 > ad500e

I want to buy the Gefell 21's, but it's tough for me to throw down 850.+ bucks for a set. Beacuse I also want actives. And I miss the AKG's to be honest.

I'm real torn. I like the Gefell's so far. I'm just not sure what direction to go now?

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Re: Hyper caps: What do your ears like?
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2005, 07:37:55 AM »
The MGs and Schoeps hypers are in a class of their own...I prefer the MGs as I find them to have more of a neutral response, but the difference is negligible between the two imo

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Re: Hyper caps: What do your ears like?
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2005, 08:21:00 AM »
i love the mk41's.  haven't heard too many MG hyper tapes but i've like those as well, but the schoeps a bit more.  I didn't like the neumann hypers at all.  bought them ran them a few times, sold them.  i found them to be kind of harsh.

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Re: Hyper caps: What do your ears like?
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2005, 08:23:57 AM »
i love the mk41's.  haven't heard too many MG hyper tapes but i've like those as well, but the schoeps a bit more.  I didn't like the neumann hypers at all.  bought them ran them a few times, sold them.  i found them to be kind of harsh.

agreed. The mk41's are my fav. nice bass response. the most versitile cap there is, imo.
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Re: Hyper caps: What do your ears like?
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2005, 11:30:30 AM »
akg hypers rule your face.
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Re: Hyper caps: What do your ears like?
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2005, 02:47:08 PM »
mics: (4)akg c460b(a60,mk46,ck1x,ck1,ck2,ck3,ck61,ck63)
pres: oade m148/edirol wmod ua5
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Re: Hyper caps: What do your ears like?
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2005, 03:57:39 PM »
M 210 hyper
Frequency range Hz 40 ... 20000 Hz
Sensitivity at 1 kHz Pa 13 mV/
Switch position "reduced bass roll-off" at 60 Hz -15 dB
Rated impedance    150   
Equivalent loudness level
due to inherent noise CCIR 468-4 22 dB
DIN EN 60651 - A 14
Signal-to-noise-ratio
(re. 1 Pa at 1 kHz) CCIR-weighted 72 dB
A-weighted   80 dB
Max. SPL for THD  0,5 % 135 dB
with 10 dB preattenuation  145 dB
Total dynamic range of the microphone amplifier  121 dB
Current consumption
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Re: Hyper caps: What do your ears like?
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2005, 04:02:47 PM »
 AKG C 480 B with CK 63/ULS
The microphone shall be of the condenser type with capsule and
powering module assembly no larger than 0.8 in. (21 mm)
in diameter. The microphone shall accept phantom powering at
48 volts. The nominal output impedance shall be equal to or less
than 150 ohms at 1 kHz, and the output shall be transformerless.
The microphone shall provide a three position control for normal (0
dB), elevated sensitivity (+6 dB), and attenuated (-10 dB) sensitivity.
Switchable low-frequency cuts at 150 Hz and 75 Hz at 12
dB/octave shall be provided.
The polar pattern shall be hypercardioid and nominal on-axis
frequency response shall be 20 Hz-20 kHz. For the normal
sensitivity setting of 0 dB, microphone sensitivity shall be at least
20 mV/Pa, and the self noise floor shall be no higher than 11 dB-A.
The 0.5% THD operating level shall be no lower than 140 dB SPL.
The microphone shall be the AKG Model C 480 B preamp
operating with the AKG Acoustics Model CK 63/ULS capsule.

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Re: Hyper caps: What do your ears like?
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2005, 04:04:49 PM »
schoeps

Technical specifications:

Frequency range: 40 Hz - 20 kHz
Sensitivity: 13 mV/Pa
Equivalent noise level: A-weighted:
16 dB-A
CCIR: 24 dB
Signal-to-noise ratio
(A-weighted): 78 dB-A
Maximum SPL
(0.5% THD): 132 dB

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Re: Hyper caps: What do your ears like?
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2005, 04:09:09 PM »
483's bass rules your face
mics: (4)akg c460b(a60,mk46,ck1x,ck1,ck2,ck3,ck61,ck63)
pres: oade m148/edirol wmod ua5
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Re: Hyper caps: What do your ears like?
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2005, 04:37:41 PM »
granted I havent USED the schoeps, but i have heard many many tapes with them as I was trying out different possibilities for gear...I had the dough to buy a set of schoeps, but I didnt like them as much as the MGs.  thats coming from a newcomer, but there was somehting that was missing from the scheops that I didnt like warmth..seemed brighter in the mid ranges... i dont know what it was, but i spent many long nights listening to tapes. and thats what i determined.what do you think the differences are sonically?I can describe sonic differences in singers or wind/string instruments,,,but im having a hard time describing PA sourced recordings. so i guess for me I notice frequencies from about 60-550 herz strongly..and seems to me that the schoeps have more brightness in those areas that are strong to me....if that makes sense.

MGs sounded perfect to me. they can keep the schoeps. ill take the u89sLD and MGs.



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Re: Hyper caps: What do your ears like?
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2005, 05:03:20 PM »
I currently have the Schoeps MK41s and the MG210s. Personally, I prefer the MGs as they really have a smooth midrange (especially with the M148)! I like the Schoeps as they are very close to the MGs, but a slightly better low-end and a bit more open sounding, but lacking the mids of the MGs! I tend to like the V3 with the Schoeps and the M148>V3 with the MGS. For some reason, the low-end tends to get a bit sloppy with MK41>M148>V3.  I just wish the MGs had actives!

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Re: Hyper caps: What do your ears like?
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2005, 05:09:47 PM »
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Re: Hyper caps: What do your ears like?
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2005, 05:23:21 PM »
483's haters :P :)

you know bean back when i joined i was asking you what mics to look in to , you suggested 480s..I have about 20 or so shows made with various incarnations of that series...what ive heard from them, more than anything..is a BEAUTIFUL bass response,. but honestly , to my ears..not much else that made me perk up ..the 414s sound nice to me, but perhaps more to do with the fact that they are LDs and not so much the AKG part. so you need to let me use them to really get a feel for them. :)

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Re: Hyper caps: What do your ears like?
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2005, 06:03:02 PM »
only at ts.com would akg win this poll ;) :P

 

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