Topic: mic opinions

[TNJazz]

Thanks for the input guys!  Keep it coming.  Those Beyers seem pretty nice.  Noticed the frequency range of 40-20 as opposed to 20-20 like most recording mics.  Is that an issue? 

no

many ribbons have 40-18 response.  some vintage neumanns (km54's, etc.) are 40-18 as well.  it's not really a factor.

[Teen Wolf Blitzer]

no phantom?  How are they powered?  Where would placement of these mics be appropriate?  I'm afraid even onstage in front of an oldtime band might be too loud?

[stirinthesauce]

though ribbons sound excellent, I don't believe they are practical for out applications (as live PA driven tapers).  I do own a ribbon but that is in addition to my other mics.  Ribbons are fragile, limited to a single pattern (fig and require high gain.  If you want a practical all around mic, go with one of the sd mics mentioned above.  

Don't get me wrong, if you have other mics in your arsenal, try a ribbon out.  But if you want a mic with versatility, go with a condensor.



Edited to add;   Oooops, see by your first post you have other mics.  If you know your situation for taping, try out the ribbons 

[F.O.Bean]

I'm looking for another pair of mics.  I am able to get all these within the 7-8 hundred range.  Which would you choose?  Why?
I currently have TLII's and 451's.  Mostly record acoustic music.


Neumann KM 184's
MBHO 603/ka200n
AKG 460 ck61's
SD LSD2
Peluso's

What I really want is ck1's with the actives and some 460 bodies.  How hard are those actives to really find?  How many run them here? How did they find em?

for acoustic, id def go w/ the mbho's, id go actives if i did

otherwise, just for something diff id try the peluso's, they sound good to my ears but i also havent heard many tapes with them

for ease of use the lsd2 would be the shizzle too

but for acoustic stuff, i have always loved the mbho's personally

one of my fav tapes ever was from keller incident at the first bonnaroo in 2002, and the tapes SMOKE every other source IMO

[RebelRebel]

he said acoustic recording... for acoustic recording..aint much gonna top a ribbon, sound wise...and not all ribbons are figure 8 .

and they are dirt cheap(the fatheads..300 a pair!) so you could get another pair of mics on top of that!

and besides..the mics he listed have all been used over and over and over(cept the pelusos)...the community needs to be on the bleedin edge man... who wants to use what everone else is using???

though ribbons sound excellent, I don't believe they are practical for out applications (as live PA driven tapers).  I do own a ribbon but that is in addition to my other mics.  Ribbons are fragile, limited to a single pattern (fig and require high gain.  If you want a practical all around mic, go with one of the sd mics mentioned above. 

Don't get me wrong, if you have other mics in your arsenal, try a ribbon out.  But if you want a mic with versatility, go with a condensor.



Edited to add;   Oooops, see by your first post you have other mics.  If you know your situation for taping, try out the ribbons 

[Teen Wolf Blitzer]

WTF?  The mics shot up 200 bucks in 3 hours.  strange...  They were 799 earlier.

http://www.frontendaudio.com/Beyerdynamic_MC_930_Cardioid_True_Condenser_Microp_p/1563.htm

[TNJazz]

he said acoustic recording... for acoustic recording..aint much gonna top a ribbon, sound wise...and not all ribbons are figure 8 .

Mark, maybe you can clarify.  My assumption was that you record amplified acoustic music (bluegrass through a PA)...

[TNJazz]

no phantom?  How are they powered?  Where would placement of these mics be appropriate?  I'm afraid even onstage in front of an oldtime band might be too loud?

Ribbons are technically dynamic mics, not condensers.

[Teen Wolf Blitzer]

Usually onstage mics and a board is what I would grab. Bluegrass/oldtime music.  But I do also see bands like Yonder.  And on occasion some Critters Buggin.  That type of thing.

[stirinthesauce]

he said acoustic recording... for acoustic recording..aint much gonna top a ribbon, sound wise...and not all ribbons are figure 8 .

and they are dirt cheap(the fatheads..300 a pair!) so you could get another pair of mics on top of that!

and besides..the mics he listed have all been used over and over and over(cept the pelusos)...the community needs to be on the bleedin edge man... who wants to use what everone else is using???

though ribbons sound excellent, I don't believe they are practical for out applications (as live PA driven tapers).  I do own a ribbon but that is in addition to my other mics.  Ribbons are fragile, limited to a single pattern (fig and require high gain.  If you want a practical all around mic, go with one of the sd mics mentioned above. 

Don't get me wrong, if you have other mics in your arsenal, try a ribbon out.  But if you want a mic with versatility, go with a condensor.



Edited to add;   Oooops, see by your first post you have other mics.  If you know your situation for taping, try out the ribbons 

I'm in total agreement about trying different mics.     Guess my point was if I was to have one set of mics, condensors would be the only option, sd's at that.  But as I edited, I see he said he has other mics so Ribbons would be great alternative to try out, especially at the price point to get into them.  For onstage purposes, they are ohh so silky smooth

[Teen Wolf Blitzer]

Anyone familiar with these?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Matched-Pair-Neumann-Gefell-PM750-cardiod-condenser-mic_W0QQitemZ220038640760QQihZ012QQcategoryZ133011QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item220038640760

I know they're a little out of my range but I might be able to swing it.

[RebelRebel]

Anyone familiar with these?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Matched-Pair-Neumann-Gefell-PM750-cardiod-condenser-mic_W0QQitemZ220038640760QQihZ012QQcategoryZ133011QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item220038640760

I know they're a little out of my range but I might be able to swing it.

yeah..if you have mains power access all the time..if not, yoll have to get them modded for p48(which isnt hard to do)..I am actually getting this done for two other folks here..


If I were you I would scope out a pair of the MV692 bodies, with m70 capsules or Um70 capsules..


those can be had for little money, and are great..

if you want to shop on ebay germany, i can act as middle man and ship to you..

[RebelRebel]

like this..those can come with the

http://cgi.ebay.de/Neumann-Gefell-MV-692-pair-with-M94-PSU-and-cables_W0QQitemZ230039169134QQihZ013QQcategoryZ15198QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

all the possible caps..

[Church-Audio]

he said acoustic recording... for acoustic recording..aint much gonna top a ribbon, sound wise...and not all ribbons are figure 8 .

and they are dirt cheap(the fatheads..300 a pair!) so you could get another pair of mics on top of that!

and besides..the mics he listed have all been used over and over and over(cept the pelusos)...the community needs to be on the bleedin edge man... who wants to use what everone else is using???

though ribbons sound excellent, I don't believe they are practical for out applications (as live PA driven tapers).  I do own a ribbon but that is in addition to my other mics.  Ribbons are fragile, limited to a single pattern (fig and require high gain.  If you want a practical all around mic, go with one of the sd mics mentioned above. 

Don't get me wrong, if you have other mics in your arsenal, try a ribbon out.  But if you want a mic with versatility, go with a condensor.



Edited to add;   Oooops, see by your first post you have other mics.  If you know your situation for taping, try out the ribbons 

I used a old RCA mic on a gospel/folk group in Louisville, Kentucky with an audience of 19,000 people in attendance. It was the only mic on stage. I had one of the best most authentic acoustic sounds I have ever heard. There was 2 guitar players, 1 mando, a standup bass, and three vocals. They were all gathered around this one mic, the sound was so good I got goose bumps. The show was in the round. I am a firm believer in ribbon mics. The only thing I would say about them is, you better have a very quiet preamp to use with any ribbon mic for acoustic performance or recording. I was pretty scared that I would have feedback issues, but to be honest there was none. I turned up the fader I did not touch any eq on my console and the sound was there full as life.

[RebelRebel]

Chris...USE PERIODS man...I like reading your posts, but they are hard to read because you dont punctuate..

he said acoustic recording... for acoustic recording..aint much gonna top a ribbon, sound wise...and not all ribbons are figure 8 .

and they are dirt cheap(the fatheads..300 a pair!) so you could get another pair of mics on top of that!

and besides..the mics he listed have all been used over and over and over(cept the pelusos)...the community needs to be on the bleedin edge man... who wants to use what everone else is using???

though ribbons sound excellent, I don't believe they are practical for out applications (as live PA driven tapers).  I do own a ribbon but that is in addition to my other mics.  Ribbons are fragile, limited to a single pattern (fig and require high gain.  If you want a practical all around mic, go with one of the sd mics mentioned above. 

Don't get me wrong, if you have other mics in your arsenal, try a ribbon out.  But if you want a mic with versatility, go with a condensor.



Edited to add;   Oooops, see by your first post you have other mics.  If you know your situation for taping, try out the ribbons 

I used a old RCA mic on a gospel/folk group in Louisville, Kentucky with an audience of 19,000 people in attendance it was the only mic on stage I had one of the best most authentic acoustic sounds I have ever heard There was 2 guitar players 1 mando a standup bass and three vocals around this one mic the sound was so good I got goose bumps. The show was in the round. I am a firm believer in ribbon mics. The only thing I would say about them is you better have a very quiet preamp to use with any ribbon mic for acoustic performance or recording. I was pretty scared that I would have feedback issues but to be honest there was none I turned up the fader I did not touch any eq on my console and the sound was there full as life.