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Settings for CA-Ugly II and Edirol R-09 + R-09HR
Jeremy Lykins:
I just got an Ugly II and I was wondering what the levels should be set at on the preamp and recorders. I did a few searches and couldn't find a thread for the preamp or anyone asking about these recorders with it. I have a CA-9000 and always have that set at +10 and then set my R-09's levels between 18 and 24. I'll be taping a jazz concert on Monday and I'll most likely be near the center in the front row, and it's a trio of piano, bass, and drums so the drums are going to be the loudest part of the show (and the part that will risk clipping). This won't be in the open so I won't be able to check my levels or fiddle with anything, so what should I set the Ugly and R-09 at? The Ugly has six levels to choose from, so I'm guessing that I should use level 3 or 4 and then use my recorder to fine tune it, but a general range would be helpful for me to start from. And I'm not going to use it Monday but I bought the R-09HR used on eBay to use with the Ugly, but I've never used it before and I don't want to go with all new stuff and risk screwing up the recording, so what levels should I set that at when I use it in the future?
andante:
According to the webpage for the UGLY 2:
http://www.church-audio.com/viewitem.php?productid=34
"The gain control provides 6 gain settings: 0db, 10db, 15db, 30db, 35db and 40db"...so the 2nd setting "10db" is +10db just like on your CA-9000
I would use the same settings as your recent Branford shows (really nice btw) but if you use the collar-mounted omnis you probably already know to try and get them positioned on either side of your neck so there is some sort of baffle between them.
There doesn't seem to be a world of difference between the R-09 and the R-09hr so similar settings will probably work fine. Compare them at home recording your stereo or be a little conservative with your levels on your first run with the R-09hr.
http://www.rolandus.com/products/r-09/specifications/
http://www.rolandus.com/products/r-09hr/specifications/
Jeremy Lykins:
--- Quote from: andante on June 11, 2016, 01:59:44 PM ---According to the webpage for the UGLY 2:
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I feel so dumb--I didn't even think about checking the Church Audio website. I was expecting to get a 9200 and did all of my research on that, but I got sent the Ugly by accident (I don't know if Chris upgraded me for free or if he switched my order with someone else, so I'm not even sure that this is mine). It sounds like they're basically the same, but I didn't know what the different settings were on the knob so thank you for the link.
And here's the guy that I'll be taping on Monday. I screwed up my recording the last time that I taped him at this venue (only hit record once instead of twice) so I'm already nervous about the upcoming show.
Eldar Djangirov Trio: http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=576599
andante:
The UGLY II preamp is a nice upgrade, especially for you as it has the right and left channel gain pots so you can easily fix any gain drift (like with your CA9000) as the unit ages. Of course the main benefit of the pots is the ability to adjust for microphone imbalances. The compact size is just icing on the cake.
Maybe it was easier for him to just make one big batch of UGLY 2 preamps for everyone waiting in his backlog.
Good luck on your recording and please seed it on DIME or TTS like you did last time. :)
magmazing:
I always have my R-09HR levels set in the middle (40). On my Ugly II I'm usually at 0 or +10 mostly because I'm usually recording at loud nightclubs, arenas or festivals.
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