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Title: How Fast of Laptop do i really need
Post by: momule on January 27, 2004, 10:30:43 PM
I would like to run win 2000 pro ,as Im used to it and it is very stable , and a UA-5 > and SF.

Im thinking 800Mgz ,256mb ,10gb HD  

Would this I mean could it run a 24 bit system?

 



Title: Re:How Fast of Laptop do i really need
Post by: jpschust on January 27, 2004, 10:31:13 PM
you are gonna push it a bit, but i think you could probably get away with it.  
Title: Re:How Fast of Laptop do i really need
Post by: momule on January 27, 2004, 10:39:03 PM
so should I be looking for More RAM ya think?
or faster CPU?

what is the slowest (CPU) , smallest (RAM), I should look for?

Should this be in the laptop section? Can I move it?


Thank's in advance for your input.

Nick


WOB.

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Title: Re:How Fast of Laptop do i really need
Post by: jpschust on January 27, 2004, 10:41:46 PM
id like to see a half gig of ram and a bigger hd if possible, but thats just me.  i think 880mhz would be fine though.  bigger is always better in terms of computers, but if all you are gonna be doing is taping you will be fine- i assume you mean a p3 or p4
Title: Re:How Fast of Laptop do i really need
Post by: herrmann2burn on January 27, 2004, 10:48:57 PM
Ive got 192, and havent had any problems running 24/48.
YMMV.
~rhys
Title: Re:How Fast of Laptop do i really need
Post by: Tim on January 27, 2004, 10:58:45 PM
with 24bit I'd be looking to get as much HD space as possible...
Title: Re:How Fast of Laptop do i really need
Post by: jpschust on January 27, 2004, 11:05:22 PM
on a side note, is anyone able to do any 24/192 work in the field yet?  not sure what goes up to 192 as far as convertors...
Title: Re:How Fast of Laptop do i really need
Post by: momule on January 27, 2004, 11:29:17 PM
ya I dont really want to do anything but tape with it. I have a pretty Nice Home Pc already, and Im not into lurking at starbucks  :D  

It just appears to be "a bit" better than both DAT and the JB3


thank's for the input.

Nick
Title: Re:How Fast of Laptop do i really need
Post by: Craig T on January 27, 2004, 11:38:31 PM
I had no problems doing 24/48 with a p2 500MHz win2kpro laptop via usb.
Title: Re:How Fast of Laptop do i really need
Post by: John Kelly on January 28, 2004, 12:13:24 AM
on a side note, is anyone able to do any 24/192 work in the field yet?  not sure what goes up to 192 as far as convertors...

Apparently my Firewire410 will do 24/192, as soon as I get my hard drive upgraded (putting in an 80 gig in the next few days) I'll do some tests. ;)
Title: Re:How Fast of Laptop do i really need
Post by: jpschust on January 28, 2004, 12:28:40 AM
lemme know on that, id like to be doing 24/192 in the field if possible
Title: Re:How Fast of Laptop do i really need
Post by: Tim on January 28, 2004, 01:05:55 AM
V3 does 24/192
Title: Re:How Fast of Laptop do i really need
Post by: mirth on January 28, 2004, 10:07:00 AM
I have a Celeron 350 w/196MB & a 4GB hard drive and have had no problems doing 24/48 via USB once I got my buffers up to a good level in WaveLab...

Latency is a bit higher but who cares? Its just being recorded.....
Title: Re:How Fast of Laptop do i really need
Post by: momule on January 28, 2004, 10:59:05 AM
Wow Wow wow

Hell Im still Not sure Why Infact we record @96 khz, and then Have to dither it.

hell now your talking 192khz. Is there really folk's in the forum that can play these back in a home Stereo.

My Pc can only handle up to 96khz, I had a Guy that run's the board in a Local Venue here in KC, and he thought I was crazy for running 48khz, He asked my why I would record them at 48 and then dither them to 44.1

I told Him I was New to the game But it was just kinda a standard. I percieve it as being like a VHS tape (SP,LP,SLP) I mean you can tape a show on Tv in SLP mode but do ya really want to watch it or Just like the look of Snow on your Tv.  :)

But what are really be the benefit's Of 96/192 .

I mean if we have to dither it , Is it just for archive sake?

Sorry for all the newbie ?'s

Nick


Title: Re:How Fast of Laptop do i really need
Post by: Kindguy on January 28, 2004, 02:08:35 PM
I've yet to do it, but I think you can burn it to DVD & play it off a DVD player @ 24/96?

Is that right?
Title: Re:How Fast of Laptop do i really need
Post by: BCostigan on January 28, 2004, 02:08:57 PM
Wow Wow wow

Hell Im still Not sure Why Infact we record @96 khz, and then Have to dither it.

hell now your talking 192khz. Is there really folk's in the forum that can play these back in a home Stereo.

My Pc can only handle up to 96khz, I had a Guy that run's the board in a Local Venue here in KC, and he thought I was crazy for running 48khz, He asked my why I would record them at 48 and then dither them to 44.1

I told Him I was New to the game But it was just kinda a standard. I percieve it as being like a VHS tape (SP,LP,SLP) I mean you can tape a show on Tv in SLP mode but do ya really want to watch it or Just like the look of Snow on your Tv.  :)

But what are really be the benefit's Of 96/192 .

I mean if we have to dither it , Is it just for archive sake?

Sorry for all the newbie ?'s

Nick




I would assume most are recording at  higher resolutions for archiving knowing that some day we'll be happy the recording were made at a higher resolution even though we can't play them now.  Good planning me thinks! :)
Title: Re:How Fast of Laptop do i really need
Post by: Wes on January 28, 2004, 02:27:18 PM
I, along with MANY others do listen to the 24/96 or 192 stuff.  There are a couple of ways to do it..  take a digi-out of your soundcard from your computer into the DAC of your playback gear or burn a DVD-A, which requires DVD-A authoring software along with a dvd-a player.  I'd say you'd be able to notice subtle differences on a "mid-fi" playback setup, but the more high end the system, the more dramatic the effects of higher bit depth and sample rate.  On my playback gear there is ALOT of detail gained by a 96khz recording when compared to a 48khz..  The more bits.. ie. 24 compared to 16 bits seems to add depth to the soundstage when played back..  I've found my favorite HR media to be SACD, which is comparable to 20 bit / 2.2 Mhz..

About the computer specs.. anything above 500mhz and 196MB of ram should be more than enough (check your soundcard specs).  But you will need much more than 10GB of HD space, expecially if you plan on running 24/192.  I'd say a min of 30GB.
Title: Re:How Fast of Laptop do i really need
Post by: momule on January 28, 2004, 02:29:00 PM




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I would assume most are recording at  higher resolutions for archiving knowing that some day we'll be happy the recording were made at a higher resolution even though we can't play them now.  Good planning me thinks! :)
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ya that's Kinda what I thought.




I tried to play a 24/96 CDR in My pioneer DVD player But all I got was some bad static sound.

SO it should play if Burned on a DVD is what your saying?  

Is there another way to be able to listen to 24/96 Via a DVD player using CDR's as I dont have a DVD burner yet.
Im still trying to get a response from plextor on if they plan on putting out a 8mb Buffer on there DVD Burners such as sony.
Just kinda sounds like a good Idea On a DVD burner.


Nick
Title: Re:How Fast of Laptop do i really need
Post by: dmonterisi on January 28, 2004, 02:32:22 PM
i play 24/96 recordings back via dvd-audio (different from attaching audio to a video dvd) and by connecting my home PC to my stereo.  i can not imagine that you will be able to play 24bit/96khz recordings that are somehow burned to a cd.
Title: Re:How Fast of Laptop do i really need
Post by: mirth on January 28, 2004, 02:34:43 PM
Well, if you're burning an audio CD then somewhere along the lines its getting resampled & dithered because a regular ole CD is 16/44.1.  Period.

Sounds to me like you might be trying to play a data CD in your DVD player? Also, does your DVD player support the relatively-new DVD-A spec? If not, then your better off burning a DVD video disc with just a picture & your show as the audio track.
Title: Re:How Fast of Laptop do i really need
Post by: momule on January 28, 2004, 02:42:50 PM
that makes sense I guess
Im kinda doubting my DVD player will play a DVD-A as it is old now, I bought it a couple years ago when they first started coming out.

it is a Pioneer DV-333 . I think I bought it from Crutchfield, But hell I have twisted a couple since then and dont remember for sure.

Thank's for the info though.

Nick



Title: Re:How Fast of Laptop do i really need
Post by: Chanher on January 28, 2004, 06:18:59 PM
to answer the original question, here is some info:

http://www.nickspicks.com/faq-24bit.htm