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I need a preamp... but what one?
« on: March 16, 2005, 12:39:15 PM »
So here's the deal... I am a musician that tapes him own shows to check out how we did.  This is my gear:

Sony ECM-MS957 (stereo powered mic) -> JB3 -> FireWire -> Magix Deluxe 6

I'm getting somewhat of a 'hissing' due to the mic not pushing enough gain.  I've read that a battery box is needed, but I also read that a battery box is NOT for gain.  Pretty much I need to rid of the hiss.  How would I go about doing this?

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Re: I need a preamp... but what one?
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2005, 12:47:20 PM »
...and reading old posts aren't helping me much.  I just need something with 1/4 or 3.5mm connectors... I don't need XLR or optical.  Thanks.
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Re: I need a preamp... but what one?
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2005, 12:48:23 PM »
Edirol UA5 has 1/4" inputs and are very affordable.

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Re: I need a preamp... but what one?
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2005, 12:49:19 PM »
...and reading old posts aren't helping me much. I just need something with 1/4 or 3.5mm connectors... I don't need XLR or optical.

Adapters to convert 1/4" or 3.5mm to XLR, RCA, etc. or vice versa are cheap and readily available.  Only need to worry about optical if you pick up a preamp that also includes an ADC.

What's your budget?
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Re: I need a preamp... but what one?
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2005, 12:52:46 PM »
If I were you I would just get 2 hosa mit-176 line transformers. They have xlr-in and 1/4-out. Really clean gain and the pair would cost around $30.

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Re: I need a preamp... but what one?
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2005, 12:58:14 PM »
Are you running Line-In or Mic-In?
If I remember correctly, using that Sony mic with only the AA battery gave me enough signal to run line-in on my pcm-m1 (without any hissing noise noticed AND without using transformers).
May be an issue with how you're running the JB3.

I second the recommendation for using the line transformers to get more gain. 
That mic doesn't warrant the purchase of a UA-5, IMO.
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Re: I need a preamp... but what one?
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2005, 01:04:33 PM »
My budget would be less than $100.  I'll look into a transformer.  The Sony mic definately doesn't would not be worth getting a UA-5, although I would just love to have one.  They have a thousand uses.  The mic does give me gain, but recording at low volumes like acoustic shows, is a little weak.  Thank you everyone... I love this site, I should have signed up years ago.

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Re: I need a preamp... but what one?
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2005, 01:16:13 PM »
I checked out the Hosa MIT176's, and that's just a converter.  Will that actually give me a gain output volume?
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Re: I need a preamp... but what one?
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2005, 01:27:24 PM »
I checked out the Hosa MIT176's, and that's just a converter. Will that actually give me a gain output volume?

It looks like just a converter, but there's a line transformer built in.  Yes, it will provide gain.
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Re: I need a preamp... but what one?
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2005, 01:35:40 PM »
Good deal... thanks.
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Re: I need a preamp... but what one?
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2005, 05:05:59 PM »
If are not limited to running battery powered devices...you can buy a small 4 channel mixer.

That will help with your gain issues. And since you are a musician - it can serve a dual purpose...

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Re: I need a preamp... but what one?
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2005, 09:57:37 PM »
Oktava MC012's (dorseymod) > UA-5 (digmod) > JB3
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Re: I need a preamp... but what one?
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2005, 11:57:17 PM »
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