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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #255 on: October 03, 2007, 03:51:09 PM »
This is looking/sounding great.  I'm in on this so please let us know the final details/plan.

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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #256 on: October 03, 2007, 04:01:24 PM »
why actives for the 480's?  once you have run caps and active cables, running full bodies is extremely unappealing, the actives are very low profile and set up and break down time is very short, my current set up time is about a minute or so

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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #257 on: October 03, 2007, 04:18:31 PM »
It would be killer if someone could built the active electronics into something like an SD 7xx unit.. just running caps > cables > 7xx... wow. I know that's dreaming though.

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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #258 on: October 03, 2007, 04:29:11 PM »
It would be killer if someone could built the active electronics into something like an SD 7xx unit.. just running caps > cables > 7xx... wow. I know that's dreaming though.

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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #259 on: October 03, 2007, 04:39:48 PM »
It would be killer if someone could built the active electronics into something like an SD 7xx unit.. just running caps > cables > 7xx... wow. I know that's dreaming though.

:cough: DPA  ;D

Hah, I was waiting to see who the first one to say that would be... you take the prize my friend!

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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #260 on: October 03, 2007, 05:16:54 PM »
It would be killer if someone could built the active electronics into something like an SD 7xx unit.. just running caps > cables > 7xx... wow. I know that's dreaming though.

:cough: DPA  ;D

Hah, I was waiting to see who the first one to say that would be... you take the prize my friend!

after running the ccm4vs a few times its amazing that even an active setup can seem cumbersome, though it takes a lot of adjustment to the sound.

running some DPAs this week to see how i like them, im kinda scared that i will  ;D
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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #261 on: October 03, 2007, 05:28:28 PM »
I've got some a61 swivels that I can donate to the project..., sort of.
Richard, I know you've asked for these in general, but i'm not really willing to part w/the $300 investment to just give them away for the most part....

but, i'll give them to anyone for research / development into this project just as long as they come back in usable fashion.
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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #262 on: October 03, 2007, 06:03:04 PM »
running some DPAs this week to see how i like them, im kinda scared that i will  ;D

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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #263 on: October 03, 2007, 06:09:07 PM »
I've got some a61 swivels that I can donate to the project..., sort of.
Richard, I know you've asked for these in general, but i'm not really willing to part w/the $300 investment to just give them away for the most part....

but, i'll give them to anyone for research / development into this project just as long as they come back in usable fashion.
cosmetics, not an issue.

OK.  I'm going to hold tight with my Beyer setup (and various omni "hat" mics).  I've basically decided, for better or worse, that I'm not going to put any more of my money into this.  I *may* end up buying a set of 460 bodies (to go with my current ck63 caps) but I'll still need some way to hook up the capsules, either the fabricated cables, swivels, or anything else to get the job done.  But if anyone else does this in the meantime, more power to them.

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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #264 on: October 04, 2007, 11:37:21 AM »
at this point i do not see the value of potentially destroying nick's A61's. my machinist has indicated the only crappy part (aside from the low volume and consequent low $$) is the plastic piece in the end for the body.

i like the "battery box" as an option very much. it would make the cables simpler as only one end - the capsule end - would need to be fabricated. the other end could be terminated with a lemo or mini switchcraft xlr. the "battery box" option also allows 480 owners to run their caps.

however, that means two versions of the cable. that matters only to me in what i have to ask the machinist to do in terms of quantity.

the KILLER solution would be to fit the battery box into an extended XLR body - ala Sennheiser as when you wish to run the MExx caps w/o the K3U body - and use 48phantom to power the bias circuit as well as the cap. sennheiser sells a long xlr connector that has a circuit board inside to convert the 48phantom into the 9v dc required by the electret caps. might have circuit diagram somewhere.

comments anyone?? illconditioned, feel free to pm me.

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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #265 on: October 04, 2007, 12:05:57 PM »
i like the "battery box" as an option very much. it would make the cables simpler as only one end - the capsule end - would need to be fabricated. the other end could be terminated with a lemo or mini switchcraft xlr. the "battery box" option also allows 480 owners to run their caps.

however, that means two versions of the cable. that matters only to me in what i have to ask the machinist to do in terms of quantity.
why would you need 2 different cables for a battery box option?

and again, thanks for the work
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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #266 on: October 04, 2007, 05:03:54 PM »
I have often wondered if it would be possible to run one manufacturers capsules with another manufacturers bodies. With the right connector ends on an adaptor or cable, would it be possible to run Neumann caps with a Scheops body? This could make for some good experimentation, if possible.
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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #267 on: October 04, 2007, 05:06:13 PM »
at this point i do not see the value of potentially destroying nick's A61's. my machinist has indicated the only crappy part (aside from the low volume and consequent low $$) is the plastic piece in the end for the body.

i like the "battery box" as an option very much. it would make the cables simpler as only one end - the capsule end - would need to be fabricated. the other end could be terminated with a lemo or mini switchcraft xlr. the "battery box" option also allows 480 owners to run their caps.

however, that means two versions of the cable. that matters only to me in what i have to ask the machinist to do in terms of quantity.

the KILLER solution would be to fit the battery box into an extended XLR body - ala Sennheiser as when you wish to run the MExx caps w/o the K3U body - and use 48phantom to power the bias circuit as well as the cap. sennheiser sells a long xlr connector that has a circuit board inside to convert the 48phantom into the 9v dc required by the electret caps. might have circuit diagram somewhere.

comments anyone?? illconditioned, feel free to pm me.

neil in san marcos

This might be something Jon from Naiant may be able to do ??? He's pretty good at stuffing a lot of stuff into small enclosures.
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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #268 on: October 04, 2007, 05:08:13 PM »
I have often wondered if it would be possible to run one manufacturers capsules with another manufacturers bodies. With the right connector ends on an adaptor or cable, would it be possible to run Neumann caps with a Scheops body? This could make for some good experimentation, if possible.

There was an adaptor on ebay that a guy was selling that allowed you to run all the older neumann caps on a AKG 450 body.  I think Dirk (TNJazz) had some for awhile.
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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #269 on: October 04, 2007, 08:35:44 PM »
at this point i do not see the value of potentially destroying nick's A61's. my machinist has indicated the only crappy part (aside from the low volume and consequent low $$) is the plastic piece in the end for the body.

i like the "battery box" as an option very much. it would make the cables simpler as only one end - the capsule end - would need to be fabricated. the other end could be terminated with a lemo or mini switchcraft xlr. the "battery box" option also allows 480 owners to run their caps.

however, that means two versions of the cable. that matters only to me in what i have to ask the machinist to do in terms of quantity.

the KILLER solution would be to fit the battery box into an extended XLR body - ala Sennheiser as when you wish to run the MExx caps w/o the K3U body - and use 48phantom to power the bias circuit as well as the cap. sennheiser sells a long xlr connector that has a circuit board inside to convert the 48phantom into the 9v dc required by the electret caps. might have circuit diagram somewhere.

comments anyone?? illconditioned, feel free to pm me.

neil in san marcos

This might be something Jon from Naiant may be able to do ??? He's pretty good at stuffing a lot of stuff into small enclosures.

:lol:

couldn't let this one get lost in the serious discussion of the thread :lol:
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