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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: Chimney Top on March 14, 2011, 07:51:27 PM
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Please recommend stereo bars that are inexpensive. IE: The Schoeps bar that has all the positions is ideal, but obviously $500 is too much, $15-$50 at the most. Please include a link to purchase if you have one.
Thanks
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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/272480-REG/Sabra_Som_ST2_ST_2_Double_Microphone.html (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/272480-REG/Sabra_Som_ST2_ST_2_Double_Microphone.html)
or
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/272483-REG/Sabra_Som_ST4_ST_4_Quad_Microphone.html
If you need a longer bar
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http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=143351.0
might be somewhat limiting depending on what you're running, but I wouldn't offer more than 10 bucks for it.
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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/286149-REG/AKG_KM235_1_KM235_1_Stereo_Microphone_Bar.html
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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/286149-REG/AKG_KM235_1_KM235_1_Stereo_Microphone_Bar.html
this one is great!
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The AKG bar is a classic and works wonderfully, here's another option just to spice things up. The good ol' Shure A27M, it's not light, but it works well and is certainly bombproof. I have both the AKG and the Shure in my bag when I run full bodies but I tend to run the A27M.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/68616-REG/Shure_A27M_A27M_Stereo_Stand_Adapter.html
(this is a little over the 50$ limit specified but close enough)
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I like this one:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/534727-REG/K_M_23550_500_55_23550_Adjustable_Microphone_Bar.html
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I like this one:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/534727-REG/K_M_23550_500_55_23550_Adjustable_Microphone_Bar.html
I have owned all of them out there and this one is the tits
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The AKG bar is a classic and works wonderfully, here's another option just to spice things up. The good ol' Shure A27M, it's not light, but it works well and is certainly bombproof. I have both the AKG and the Shure in my bag when I run full bodies but I tend to run the A27M.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/68616-REG/Shure_A27M_A27M_Stereo_Stand_Adapter.html
(this is a little over the 50$ limit specified but close enough)
might be a dumb question, but how does the Shure one work? None of the cheaper models have any flexibility in positioning, except side to side spacing (not a huge fan of the bendable bar, its ok). why you have to spend $400 or more to get simple features they all should have sucks.
Thanks for helping me with my research.
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The Shure has a threaded rod through the middle of it. You loosen the top and then spin the 5/8" microphone threaded pieces around the rod to the position you want and then tighten the top down again to lock them into place. You can get any angle between the capsules this way (except maybe NOS). Proper spacing is achieved by sliding the microphones forward or backward as needed in the microphone clips or shock mounts. Only issues are it's very heavy (maybe 2 pounds) and the microphones are not in the same vertical plane (which isn't supposed to make a difference).
What more flexibility in positioning are you looking for beyond side to side spacing? With either of the K&M bars, you can get any near coincident formation, but you may have to create a vertical difference between the mics depending on what microphones you have.
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The AKG bar is a classic and works wonderfully, here's another option just to spice things up. The good ol' Shure A27M, it's not light, but it works well and is certainly bombproof. I have both the AKG and the Shure in my bag when I run full bodies but I tend to run the A27M.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/68616-REG/Shure_A27M_A27M_Stereo_Stand_Adapter.html
(this is a little over the 50$ limit specified but close enough)
might be a dumb question, but how does the Shure one work? None of the cheaper models have any flexibility in positioning, except side to side spacing (not a huge fan of the bendable bar, its ok). why you have to spend $400 or more to get simple features they all should have sucks.
Thanks for helping me with my research.
the Shure Vert mount is a beast it probably weighs 2lbs. the K&M http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/534727-REG/K_M_23550_500_55_23550_Adjustable_Microphone_Bar.html is lightweight but strong. It is capable of running large diaphram microphones such as the AKG414's. plus it has a multitude of other uses. best $20 ever spent
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For shockmounts I use the Rycote InVision series for everything now.
I have both the Grace SpaceBar and the Shure one pictured above.
But Rycote are just releasing an affordable stereo bar with angles and distances marked - but it's too new to be on their website yet.
Quote above from another thread, thought it fitting here. Rycote will be releasing an affordable stereo bar.
A google search comes up with this picture but I'm not sure if this is it because it doesn't exactly match the description.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4108/5413320183_27c5c66598_z.jpg)
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Please recommend stereo bars that are inexpensive. IE: The Schoeps bar that has all the positions is ideal, but obviously $500 is too much, $15-$50 at the most. Please include a link to purchase if you have one.
The ubiquitous cheap stereo bar is, obviously, the K&M.
However, Rycote have just started doing an inexpensive stereo bar. Choice of 40cm or 70cm lengths, marks for distance and angles and also has a riser mount and loops for hanging - and very affordable.
(http://www.reddingaudio.com/images/rycote-images/MICROPHONE-STEREO-BARS.png)
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Thanks for the photo John, any idea when it will be available?
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You may be able to order it now, Rycote 037323 is the 40cm bar. Both Redding and Markertek have them on their site pages. The Markertek price is $259 though, so still outside the budget despite being cheaper than the Schoeps.
http://www.markertek.com/SpecialNewItems.asp?L=N&pagesize=20&sort=prod&off=0 (http://www.markertek.com/SpecialNewItems.asp?L=N&pagesize=20&sort=prod&off=0)
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Thanks for the photo John, any idea when it will be available?
It's available now - it's just that they have not got around to putting it on the website yet.
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The Superlux MA-90 is $104 so still outside your budget, but is much cheaper than the very similar Schoeps UMS20 ($450)
http://www.superlux.us/accessories.html (http://www.superlux.us/accessories.html)
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I don't think the Vark Bar got mentioned yet. It's $49. I owned one but ended up selling it because it can be hard to turn the 3/8" screws in the bar. I now have one made by Darktrain that works much better, but I don't think they are made any longer.
http://www.posthorn.com/Macvk_4.html (http://www.posthorn.com/Macvk_4.html)
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might be a dumb question, but how does the Shure one work? None of the cheaper models have any flexibility in positioning, except side to side spacing (not a huge fan of the bendable bar, its ok). why you have to spend $400 or more to get simple features they all should have sucks.
Thanks for helping me with my research.
??? I don't really understand why you say you have no control over positioning. Your mic mounts go on the stereo bar, and then your mics go into the mic mounts. Angle the mic mounts differently on the stereo bar and you have different mic angles, push your mics forward or backward in their mic mounts and you have different near-coincident mic spacings, or with the K&M bar I linked, you can get different mic spacings by moving the mic mounts along the t-bar.
Without pictures, but using keyboard symbols as seen from above (horizontal line being the t-bar, angled or vertical lines being the direction the mics are pointing):
\_____/ can give you a 90 degree angle between the mics (maybe less than 90 using these symbols, but you get the idea)
|______| point your mics forward and get 0 degree angle between them, but with some spacing (adjustable on the K&M bar)
__/_\___ move your mics towards the center and point them each in at 45 degrees and you get 90 degree XY (might need a riser or put one mic on top and one below)
Don't pretty much all of the t-bars give significant flexibility on angles between the mics and mic spacing? I can see that the cheaper t-bars don't show you what angles and spacing you have, but they all seem to allow a wide array of angles and spacings.
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Don't pretty much all of the t-bars give significant flexibility on angles between the mics and mic spacing?
Yep.
I think that the OP is confused. Rotating the mic mounts will Get you the angles
not just side to side spacing.
It seems to me that he is setting up the mounts in an AB fashion without rotating them and tightening them to
get the desired angle.
TO THE OP: Look at the small diaphragm mics in my avatar. They are on the adjustable AKG bar that was linked to you earlier.
Those are about din(ish). You can get any standard config with that bar and a riser or two to elevate one mic over the other so they don't hit..
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The Superlux MA-90 is $104 so still outside your budget, but is much cheaper than the very similar Schoeps UMS20 ($450)
http://www.superlux.us/accessories.html (http://www.superlux.us/accessories.html)
That Superlux bar would be very nice, if it was just half as long.
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The AKG bar is a classic and works wonderfully, here's another option just to spice things up. The good ol' Shure A27M, it's not light, but it works well and is certainly bombproof. I have both the AKG and the Shure in my bag when I run full bodies but I tend to run the A27M.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/68616-REG/Shure_A27M_A27M_Stereo_Stand_Adapter.html
(this is a little over the 50$ limit specified but close enough)
might be a dumb question, but how does the Shure one work? None of the cheaper models have any flexibility in positioning, except side to side spacing (not a huge fan of the bendable bar, its ok). why you have to spend $400 or more to get simple features they all should have sucks.
Thanks for helping me with my research.
From another thread... Here is a Shure A27M mounted on an AKG 235/1 with a windtek clamp, not a typical usage of the AKG unit but a creative one. :clapping: Thanks, Darby!
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g424/Michael_Darby/14335_1312293647053_1222013789_933963_8334420_n.jpg)
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glad you like it ;D
even more pix here:
http://s1108.photobucket.com/albums/h413/akgmike/4sale/my%20AKGs/
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Don't pretty much all of the t-bars give significant flexibility on angles between the mics and mic spacing?
Yep.
I think that the OP is confused. Rotating the mic mounts will Get you the angles
not just side to side spacing.
It seems to me that he is setting up the mounts in an AB fashion without rotating them and tightening them to
get the desired angle.
TO THE OP: Look at the small diaphragm mics in my avatar. They are on the adjustable AKG bar that was linked to you earlier.
Those are about din(ish). You can get any standard config with that bar and a riser or two to elevate one mic over the other so they don't hit..
I get that, my problem is when i screw the mounts on to the 'generic' (i'll say) stereo bar all the way tight one ends up pointing north and the other southwest. So, i have to loosen them to angle then they end up flopping or moving around. a stereo bar -should- have something that rotates the mounts with a click-in-place mechnism which is about 5 cents to manufacture... then you don't have that issue.
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with the akg and vark bars, you just hold the mic still and turn the screw until it's tight, repeat for the other side and then secure the cables. the shure bar has a washer you spin to meet the mic clip/shock to keep it from turning.
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For $250 Just give me a Grace Spacebar
http://gracedesign.com/products/spacebar/spacebar_stereo.html (http://gracedesign.com/products/spacebar/spacebar_stereo.html)
http://gracedesign.com/products/spacebar/spacebar_modular.html
And with the modular parts and an unlimited wallet you could probably build a geodesic dome mount ;D
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with the akg and vark bars, you just hold the mic still and turn the screw until it's tight, repeat for the other side and then secure the cables. the shure bar has a washer you spin to meet the mic clip/shock to keep it from turning.
^^^ what john said. keep at it, u will get it, and then laugh at yourself when u find how easy it is. ed
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A copy of this thread could make a great sticky in the TS Knowledge Base / Archive...
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with the akg and vark bars, you just hold the mic still and turn the screw until it's tight, repeat for the other side and then secure the cables. the shure bar has a washer you spin to meet the mic clip/shock to keep it from turning.
^^^ what john said. keep at it, u will get it, and then laugh at yourself when u find how easy it is. ed
i've tried it with that bendable bar, but didn't work so well. I will try it again...
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For $250 Just give me a Grace Spacebar
http://gracedesign.com/products/spacebar/spacebar_stereo.html (http://gracedesign.com/products/spacebar/spacebar_stereo.html)
http://gracedesign.com/products/spacebar/spacebar_modular.html
And with the modular parts and an unlimited wallet you could probably build a geodesic dome mount ;D
The Grace SpaceBar is the best there is ;D
But it's certainly not cheap.
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with the akg and vark bars, you just hold the mic still and turn the screw until it's tight, repeat for the other side and then secure the cables. the shure bar has a washer you spin to meet the mic clip/shock to keep it from turning.
^^^ what john said. keep at it, u will get it, and then laugh at yourself when u find how easy it is. ed
i've tried it with that bendable bar, but didn't work so well. I will try it again...
Yep.
Just don't spin the mic mount. Get it to the desired angle and hold it while screwing in the bottom screw that comes on the bar.
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Rycote put the new stero bar up on their website last night.
THIS (http://www.rycote.com/products/accessoriesspares/stereo_bar_assembly/) is the link.
UK retail is £151 +VAT for the 40cm kit and £159 +VAT for the 70cm kit.
A bit more expensive than I had thought they would be, but they do come complete with mounts for two microphones, a riser to convert one so the microphones can cross over and loops so the bar can be slung from a catenery wire.
(http://www.rycote.com//images/uploads/products/main/037322_STEREO_BAR_ASSEMBLY_70CM.jpg)
(http://www.reddingaudio.com/images/rycote-images/MICROPHONE-STEREO-BARS.png)
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with the akg and vark bars, you just hold the mic still and turn the screw until it's tight, repeat for the other side and then secure the cables. the shure bar has a washer you spin to meet the mic clip/shock to keep it from turning.
^^^ what john said. keep at it, u will get it, and then laugh at yourself when u find how easy it is. ed
i've tried it with that bendable bar, but didn't work so well. I will try it again...
If you're referring to the AKG/K&M bar, I once had a pair of shock mounts where the socket was more shallow than the screw, so even though it was screwed in all the way, it wasn't tight and the mounts still turned. If that is what you experienced, you might be able to fix that with some combination of 3/8>5/8 and 5/8>3/8 adapters or possibly removing that adapters if they are screwed into the mount.
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Rycote put the new stero bar up on their website last night.
THIS (http://www.rycote.com/products/accessoriesspares/stereo_bar_assembly/) is the link.
UK retail is £151 +VAT for the 40cm kit and £159 +VAT for the 70cm kit.
A bit more expensive than I had thought they would be, but they do come complete with mounts for two microphones, a riser to convert one so the microphones can cross over and loops so the bar can be slung from a catenery wire.
(http://www.rycote.com//images/uploads/products/main/037322_STEREO_BAR_ASSEMBLY_70CM.jpg)
(http://www.reddingaudio.com/images/rycote-images/MICROPHONE-STEREO-BARS.png)
I wonder if you could squeeze a pair of LD mics like the 414's on it for near coincident pair?
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Rycote put the new stero bar up on their website last night.
THIS (http://www.rycote.com/products/accessoriesspares/stereo_bar_assembly/) is the link.
UK retail is £151 +VAT for the 40cm kit and £159 +VAT for the 70cm kit.
A bit more expensive than I had thought they would be, but they do come complete with mounts for two microphones, a riser to convert one so the microphones can cross over and loops so the bar can be slung from a catenery wire.
(http://www.reddingaudio.com/images/rycote-images/MICROPHONE-STEREO-BARS.png)
I wonder if you could squeeze a pair of LD mics like the 414's on it for near coincident pair?
I would guess - yes.
If you get a second riser and put it on top of the other - or - turn it vertical.
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Damn that just looks like a piece of prefabbed track with sliders. I have that type of stuff at work. I'll have to check it out tonight. never thought of that.
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Damn that just looks like a piece of prefabbed track with sliders. I have that type of stuff at work. I'll have to check it out tonight. never thought of that.
That's what I'm sayin', who the hell is going to pay $300-$500 for that? that is a giant rip off.
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with the akg and vark bars, you just hold the mic still and turn the screw until it's tight, repeat for the other side and then secure the cables. the shure bar has a washer you spin to meet the mic clip/shock to keep it from turning.
^^^ what john said. keep at it, u will get it, and then laugh at yourself when u find how easy it is. ed
i've tried it with that bendable bar, but didn't work so well. I will try it again...
If you're referring to the AKG/K&M bar, I once had a pair of shock mounts where the socket was more shallow than the screw, so even though it was screwed in all the way, it wasn't tight and the mounts still turned. If that is what you experienced, you might be able to fix that with some combination of 3/8>5/8 and 5/8>3/8 adapters or possibly removing that adapters if they are screwed into the mount.
^this
Thanks, I'll remember to take my shockmounts with me to the store to get either the right bar or adapter, reducer...
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^ Rubber washers, totalled at about $0.20, should fix any spacing issues with sockets being too shallow. They also give the ability to "fine tune" the angle after the screws are tightened.
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why do that when you can spend $241.73 on that Rycote? ::)
it appears this thread has not turned up any units that are reasonably priced with more features than just a screw and a bar. and that there is a $300 price gap between those that do and those that do not. With maybe one or two exceptions in the $70-$100 range.
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I guess my point is that you can make do... at least I have, with the basic stuff
sorry for deleting my post, but I didn't want anyone to think I was bashing the Rycote brand
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Damn that just looks like a piece of prefabbed track with sliders. I have that type of stuff at work. I'll have to check it out tonight. never thought of that.
That's what I'm sayin', who the hell is going to pay $300-$500 for that? that is a giant rip off.
Er - retail in the UK = about $240 (£151).
I think Rycote wanted to make it cheaper - but that's just what it cost to make.
The Rycote does have distance and angle markings - though not as good as the Grace.
In the US the Grace SpaceBar may be affordable.
In the UK the Grace is more than double the cost of the Rycote - but in the US the Grace will be much cheaper and the Rycote more expensive as it costs to ship across the pond.
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If you're referring to the AKG/K&M bar, I once had a pair of shock mounts where the socket was more shallow than the screw, so even though it was screwed in all the way, it wasn't tight and the mounts still turned. If that is what you experienced, you might be able to fix that with some combination of 3/8>5/8 and 5/8>3/8 adapters or possibly removing that adapters if they are screwed into the mount.
I ran into a similar issue with the mic clips that came with my AKG Perception 170s. What I did was to use a couple of washers over each screw. Works like a charm...
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The AKG bar is a classic and works wonderfully, here's another option just to spice things up. The good ol' Shure A27M, it's not light, but it works well and is certainly bombproof. I have both the AKG and the Shure in my bag when I run full bodies but I tend to run the A27M.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/68616-REG/Shure_A27M_A27M_Stereo_Stand_Adapter.html
(this is a little over the 50$ limit specified but close enough)
might be a dumb question, but how does the Shure one work? None of the cheaper models have any flexibility in positioning, except side to side spacing (not a huge fan of the bendable bar, its ok). why you have to spend $400 or more to get simple features they all should have sucks.
Thanks for helping me with my research.
From another thread... Here is a Shure A27M mounted on an AKG 235/1 with a windtek clamp, not a typical usage of the AKG unit but a creative one. :clapping: Thanks, Darby!
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g424/Michael_Darby/14335_1312293647053_1222013789_933963_8334420_n.jpg)
very cool!
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Hello:
Since there was a specific request for a product, I hope it is OK to list a couple of ours:
http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-DTS-10
http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-DTS-12
Thanks!
If you have any questions, please let me know.
Best Regards,
Chris Carfagno
sales@soundprofessionals.com
www.soundprofessionals.com
The Sound Professionals, Inc.
3444 Sylon Blvd
Hainesport NJ, 08036
800-213-3021
609-267-4400
609-267-0054 fax
Thanks. I ordered the 14" model.
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(http://www.reddingaudio.com/images/rycote-images/MICROPHONE-STEREO-BARS.png)
Dam that is ass ugly.....with all the RD resources they have they couldn't come up with something a little better looking. I know function is what its about, but that is ugly....The grace bar looks like the winner hands down, followed by the superlux bar (modified), then the plain old AKG or K+M bar.....
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Why would you go with that one Chimneytop? You can't move the mics. Big mistake.
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Why would you go with that one Chimneytop? You can't move the mics. Big mistake.
it has 4 mounts, not bad...
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I think Mark's point is that you seemed to ignore some good advice in this thread from some pretty experienced tapers and go with a mount that has fixed position mounts. You say you couldn't get the AKG mount to work for you, yet there were a number of pics in the thread showing folks using them in a range of configurations. My $0.02. I'm sure you will sort it out eventually.
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(http://www.reddingaudio.com/images/rycote-images/MICROPHONE-STEREO-BARS.png)
Dam that is ass ugly.....with all the RD resources they have they couldn't come up with something a little better looking. I know function is what its about, but that is ugly....The grace bar looks like the winner hands down, followed by the superlux bar (modified), then the plain old AKG or K+M bar.....
I agree that the Grace is the best by far - I have a set of those with both the short and long bars, 4 x mic mounts and 1 x high mic. mount - but you do pay for the Grace's superb engineering.
The Rycote is less than half the price. The main bar is the standard Rycote extrusion which can be any length and it is strengthened by a steel bar underneath. They include two sliders and a height adjuster as well as catenery loops. The bar is marked in distances and there is also an angle marker.
For what it does there is not much else around at the price - it's either superb and expensive or basic and cheap - the Rycote fills the middle ground.
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I think Mark's point is that you seemed to ignore some good advice in this thread from some pretty experienced tapers and go with a mount that has fixed position mounts. You say you couldn't get the AKG mount to work for you, yet there were a number of pics in the thread showing folks using them in a range of configurations. My $0.02. I'm sure you will sort it out eventually.
I got one I wanted suited for my price range. This one looks well constructed, 4 mic mounts with easily gripable screws. Moving side to side is not the issue for me, it was the angling which has been resolved (buy a washer or two).
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(http://www.reddingaudio.com/images/rycote-images/MICROPHONE-STEREO-BARS.png)
Dam that is ass ugly.....with all the RD resources they have they couldn't come up with something a little better looking. I know function is what its about, but that is ugly....The grace bar looks like the winner hands down, followed by the superlux bar (modified), then the plain old AKG or K+M bar.....
I agree that the Grace is the best by far - I have a set of those with both the short and long bars, 4 x mic mounts and 1 x high mic. mount - but you do pay for the Grace's superb engineering.
The Rycote is less than half the price. The main bar is the standard Rycote extrusion which can be any length and it is strengthened by a steel bar underneath. They include two sliders and a height adjuster as well as catenery loops. The bar is marked in distances and there is also an angle marker.
For what it does there is not much else around at the price - it's either superb and expensive or basic and cheap - the Rycote fills the middle ground.
Ouch, the Rycote bar is expensive in the US with the 40cm RYC-037323 at $259 this is comparably priced to the 30cm SB-30 Grace bar for $295. In the US if you are considering springing for the Rycote it would make more sense to spend a little more and get the nicer Grace Bar.
Had hoped the Rycote bar would actually be inexpensive, but not priced at $259 so I'll stick with my Shure A27M and AKG 235/1.
Love the Rycote INV-7 shocks though, these really appear to be the best designed and durable shocks per dollar.
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Love the Rycote INV-7 shocks though, these really appear to be the best designed and durable shocks per dollar.
Agreed....love my INV-7...
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There are two Beyerdynamic tbars on ebay that mimic the vertical setup (i.e. Shure vert bar) but lighter and more lowpro:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Beyerdynamic-MAV802-Mic-Holder-Stereo-XY-ORTF-Se-/320669211384
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Since everyone's been knocking the A27M for how heavy it is, I'll play devil's advocate and cite one advantage to how sturdy it is mounted on a 13' Manfrotto 004B. In this picture Soling decided to go above me and has his 4 mics clamped to the top of my A27M. >:D
My apologies for the crappy iPhone picture but if you look closely you can see the base of the A27M at the top of the Manfrotto and the back of Solings Windtech clamp above my big ass Shure windscreens. One thing I do wish they made is an A27M coupler, so you could replace the screw top attachment with something that could make them screw together and be stackable.
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5100/5538302195_590ee9e9df.jpg)
Picture is from Phish Alpine Valley 2011-08-15, the other mics on the tree are JT's AKG 480's
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Here is a Schoeps stereo bar, very pricy though!!! (http://www.imaico.co.jp/schps/stereo/ums20.htm)
(http://www.posthorn.com/Images/Schoeps/S_ums20_2.jpg)
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There are two Beyerdynamic tbars on ebay that mimic the vertical setup (i.e. Shure vert bar) but lighter and more lowpro:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Beyerdynamic-MAV802-Mic-Holder-Stereo-XY-ORTF-Se-/320669211384
Yes, the Beyer looks nice, Full Compass has them for $59.16
http://www.fullcompass.com/product/236942.html (http://www.fullcompass.com/product/236942.html)
(http://www.dv247.com/assets/products/58430_l.jpg)
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Ouch, the Rycote bar is expensive in the US with the 40cm RYC-037323 at $259 this is comparably priced to the 30cm SB-30 Grace bar for $295. In the US if you are considering springing for the Rycote it would make more sense to spend a little more and get the nicer Grace Bar.
Had hoped the Rycote bar would actually be inexpensive, but not priced at $259 so I'll stick with my Shure A27M and AKG 235/1.
I agree - the Grace is absolutely superb.
If the Rycote was half the price, like it is in the UK, it's a great bar.
But the Grace being made in the USA and the Rycote being made in the UK the price in the US does not really work in its favour, unfortunately.
Love the Rycote INV-7 shocks though, these really appear to be the best designed and durable shocks per dollar.
Agreed.
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im a fan of this one
http://focuscamera.com/product.asp?id=964749868
(http://images2.opticsplanet.com/640-640/opplanet-manfrotto-black-triple-mic-holder-154b.jpg)
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I dig that. Great find.
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im a fan of this one
http://focuscamera.com/product.asp?id=964749868
(http://images2.opticsplanet.com/640-640/opplanet-manfrotto-black-triple-mic-holder-154b.jpg)
That's a good one.
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My Rycote stereo bar arrived today. ;D
It actually looks much better in the flesh than I expected. ;D
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My Rycote stereo bar arrived today. ;D
It actually looks much better in the flesh than I expected. ;D
Great, lets see some rig pictures of it in use.
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im a fan of this one
http://focuscamera.com/product.asp?id=964749868
(http://images2.opticsplanet.com/640-640/opplanet-manfrotto-black-triple-mic-holder-154b.jpg)
That's a good one.
Best I can tell from Pix and description is that the mount to mic stand is bayonet type not screw on? And that all the mic mounts are the same bayonet style? Does anyone know if it will accept either 3/8 or 5/8 threaded mounts?
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im a fan of this one
http://focuscamera.com/product.asp?id=964749868
(http://images2.opticsplanet.com/640-640/opplanet-manfrotto-black-triple-mic-holder-154b.jpg)
That's a good one.
Best I can tell from Pix and description is that the mount to mic stand is bayonet type not screw on? And that all the mic mounts are the same bayonet style? Does anyone know if it will accept either 3/8 or 5/8 threaded mounts?
Those little black caps you see on the tops are screw-on thread protectors for 3/8" threads....actually now that I think about it I think they are reversible with 3/8" on one end and 1/4" on the other.
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OK so what about the mount to the mic stand? Any idea if it is threaded for 5/8"?
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^^ ive had one for a while & i love it...lighting rig mount from stand and the copper colored pins are reverse able. both outside mounts move along the horizontal bar, and the bar itself can be slid left/right. ive used it for akg 414 omnis spread on the ends, and mg210's in the middle...bar isnt too heavy either
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kinda blurry..
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/rick36012/misc/IMG_0495.jpg)
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kinda blurry..
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/rick36012/misc/IMG_0495.jpg)
nice. i like that set-up. pretty slick.
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^^ .lighting rig mount from stand and the copper colored pins are reverse able
Do you mean the bayonet style mount has 5/8" threads? And as a lighting guy...this is not what we call a "lighting rig mount" Our "lighting rig mounts" are clamps that are designed to mount on 2" OD pipe and truss, not a 1/2" pin....I know busting yer stones a little but what I'm trying to figure out from your post & pix is do you need an adapter to go from the normal 5/8" mic stand threads to a bayonet mount to get this to mount? Does it come with one? Does it accept 3/8" threads in bottom? It looks like it an adapter is needed from your pix. Thanks
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From another thread... Here is a Shure A27M mounted on an AKG 235/1 with a windtek clamp, not a typical usage of the AKG unit but a creative one. :clapping: Thanks, Darby!
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g424/Michael_Darby/14335_1312293647053_1222013789_933963_8334420_n.jpg)
I have one of those link bars, and I've owned an A27. That's way, way past the amount of weight I'd ever trust on that extended link bar. Especially extended out over a balcony.
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From another thread... Here is a Shure A27M mounted on an AKG 235/1 with a windtek clamp, not a typical usage of the AKG unit but a creative one. :clapping: Thanks, Darby!
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g424/Michael_Darby/14335_1312293647053_1222013789_933963_8334420_n.jpg)
I have one of those link bars, and I've owned an A27. That's way, way past the amount of weight I'd ever trust on that extended link bar. Especially extended out over a balcony.
I've done it far more times than I can count ;)
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^^ .lighting rig mount from stand and the copper colored pins are reverse able
Do you mean the bayonet style mount has 5/8" threads? And as a lighting guy...this is not what we call a "lighting rig mount" Our "lighting rig mounts" are clamps that are designed to mount on 2" OD pipe and truss, not a 1/2" pin....I know busting yer stones a little but what I'm trying to figure out from your post & pix is do you need an adapter to go from the normal 5/8" mic stand threads to a bayonet mount to get this to mount? Does it come with one? Does it accept 3/8" threads in bottom? It looks like it an adapter is needed from your pix. Thanks
sorry so vague...t-bar mounts on the standard manfrotto pin..just like the 3 copper colored ones that are on the bar itself...it doesnt screw on..just held tight with the horizontal screw on the t-bar....now im even confusing myself
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I have one of those link bars, and I've owned an A27. That's way, way past the amount of weight I'd ever trust on that extended link bar. Especially extended out over a balcony.
Same here. I also wouldn't trust the Windtech clamp with all that weight, either (especially without a safety wire). I find the SuperClamp far more robust for such setups and well worth a few extra bucks for the peace of mind and, most importantly, reduced risk.
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From another thread... Here is a Shure A27M mounted on an AKG 235/1 with a windtek clamp, not a typical usage of the AKG unit but a creative one. :clapping: Thanks, Darby!
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g424/Michael_Darby/14335_1312293647053_1222013789_933963_8334420_n.jpg)
I have one of those link bars, and I've owned an A27. That's way, way past the amount of weight I'd ever trust on that extended link bar. Especially extended out over a balcony.
holy crap! if i was directly below on the floor, i think id rather have the new jersey balcony pisser over me than that shure bar..did i just say that?
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that's not a Windtech clamp... it's actually an Atlas clamp :P
anybody else want to dog me... seems to be my day
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that's not a Windtech clamp... it's actually an Atlas clamp :P
anybody else want to dog me... seems to be my day
Nobody's bagging on ya, Mike.
I use a Superclamp and the solid aluminum Manfrotto extension when clamping off a balcony and it IS far more robust. I don't trust a Windtech style C clamp when putting weight out over people's heads.
But like you said....people have done it countless times without incident. To each their own.
Having locking XLRs on the mics would prob avoid any major disaster if something were to fail but I also use a homebrew safety cable (some Belden 1804a and 2 caribiners with double half hitch knots) just in case.
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^^ .lighting rig mount from stand and the copper colored pins are reverse able
Do you mean the bayonet style mount has 5/8" threads? And as a lighting guy...this is not what we call a "lighting rig mount" Our "lighting rig mounts" are clamps that are designed to mount on 2" OD pipe and truss, not a 1/2" pin....I know busting yer stones a little but what I'm trying to figure out from your post & pix is do you need an adapter to go from the normal 5/8" mic stand threads to a bayonet mount to get this to mount? Does it come with one? Does it accept 3/8" threads in bottom? It looks like it an adapter is needed from your pix. Thanks
sorry so vague...t-bar mounts on the standard manfrotto pin..just like the 3 copper colored ones that are on the bar itself...it doesnt screw on..just held tight with the horizontal screw on the t-bar....now im even confusing myself
I think kirk is talking about the three mounts on the bar. It looks like they are 3/8" because you are using a rapid adapter for the tbar and mg's.
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that's not a Windtech clamp... it's actually an Atlas clamp :P
anybody else want to dog me... seems to be my day
Nobody's bagging on ya, Mike.
I use a Superclamp and the solid aluminum Manfrotto extension when clamping off a balcony and it IS far more robust. I don't trust a Windtech style C clamp when putting weight out over people's heads.
But like you said....people have done it countless times without incident. To each their own.
Having locking XLRs on the mics would prob avoid any major disaster if something were to fail but I also use a homebrew safety cable (some Belden 1804a and 2 caribiners with double half hitch knots) just in case.
better?
(http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h413/akgmike/4sale/my%20AKGs/DSCN1604copy2.jpg)
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Does it accept 3/8" threads in bottom? It looks like it an adapter is needed from your pix. Thanks
sorry so vague...t-bar mounts on the standard manfrotto pin..
That's the answer I was looking for. 8)
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looks like i was confused. But to use the mounts on the bar you would need either 3/8" to 5/8" adapters or rapid adapters or a 3/8 shock correct?
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looks like i was confused. But to use the mounts on the bar you would need either 3/8" to 5/8" adapters or rapid adapters or a 3/8 shock correct?
you are correct sir. many mounting options with adapters
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Thanks. I thought that's what kirk was talking about.
I have tons of adapters. Everyone should.
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kinda blurry..
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/rick36012/misc/IMG_0495.jpg)
I like! Just might have to use this for some 4v + mk5 spaced omni goodness. >:D
Does it get any shorty for travel in a bag?
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From another thread... Here is a Shure A27M mounted on an AKG 235/1 with a windtek clamp, not a typical usage of the AKG unit but a creative one. :clapping: Thanks, Darby!
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g424/Michael_Darby/14335_1312293647053_1222013789_933963_8334420_n.jpg)
I have one of those link bars, and I've owned an A27. That's way, way past the amount of weight I'd ever trust on that extended link bar. Especially extended out over a balcony.
holy crap! if i was directly below on the floor, i think id rather have the new jersey balcony pisser over me than that shure bar..did i just say that?
Dude, I was all set to make a "and some TSers have been indicted for peeing off the balcony..." reference :P
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I miss our old clamp spot at Slowdown. I never had a prob with lighter setups on a Windtech but now that I'm running TL's I have to take the extra precaution.
That was some easy tapin. Is that Dustin's AK40 setup? At first I thought it was my old CK1X setup but it's not.
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I miss our old clamp spot at Slowdown. I never had a prob with lighter setups on a Windtech but now that I'm running TL's I have to take the extra precaution.
That was some easy tapin. Is that Dustin's AK40 setup? At first I thought it was my old CK1X setup but it's not.
yes... I think that shot was from the NMAS show we all did together
I think he ended up moving his mics down to one of those posts extending out from the floor after you showed up
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I like this one:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/534727-REG/K_M_23550_500_55_23550_Adjustable_Microphone_Bar.html
I have owned all of them out there and this one is the tits
Just picked this up at b&h and it's exactly what I'm looking for. Great stereo bar!
The b&h photo doesn't do it justice.
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I like this one.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/On-Stage-Stands-MY700-Multi-Use-Stereo-Bar-/320658939611?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa8c31edb
On-Stage Stands' MY700 multi-use stereo bar can hold up to 6 microphones and can be angled from 0 to 45 degrees. Also features 5/8" - 27 threaded knobs.
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I like this one:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/534727-REG/K_M_23550_500_55_23550_Adjustable_Microphone_Bar.html
I have owned all of them out there and this one is the tits
Just picked this up at b&h and it's exactly what I'm looking for. Great stereo bar!
The b&h photo doesn't do it justice.
Yup - the K&M - probably the best of the inexpensive stereo bars out there.
I have about half a dozen of them at least. ;D