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neumann 184 vs akg 480b 61 caps
« on: July 22, 2008, 07:23:10 PM »
Which is better????

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Re: neumann 184 vs akg 480b 61 caps
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2008, 07:37:25 PM »
Chocolate or vanilla? Which one is better?

It is all personal preference, there is no such thing (IMO) as which microphone or cap is better. I prefer AKG.
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Re: neumann 184 vs akg 480b 61 caps
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2008, 07:41:01 PM »
Beyerdynamic MC930   ;D

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Re: neumann 184 vs akg 480b 61 caps
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2008, 07:47:31 PM »
Agree with Carl.  You need to listen to archive and decide for yourself.  Asking that question is simply just asking what people's opinions are which really means nothing.  Personally, I've owned both and I liked the sound and personality of the 184s better, but you can't go wrong with the AKGs either, especially when you consider that you have capsule options.

The other thing is that some mics will perform better in some situations than others, although I'm not sure I know the formula to get the stars aligned perfectly.  For example, I pulled a recording from last years All Good (Ozric Tentacles) with the 481s that I'd put up against ANY mics out there, including the priciest of the pricey...it was just the right combination of music, mic location, cables, etc that added up to what I feel was my single best recording ever.  But hedging this statement, I've also made some fantastic sounding recordings with the 184s.

Bottom line is to spend a minimum of 2 hours on archive listening to multiple samples of both and make up your mind based on what pleases your ears.

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Re: neumann 184 vs akg 480b 61 caps
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2008, 07:51:20 PM »
for me it also depends on what you are running them into
for example i HATE AKG into a 7xx
but Love them into a fr2le
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Re: neumann 184 vs akg 480b 61 caps
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2008, 08:05:51 PM »
Chocolate or vanilla? Which one is better?



Vanilla.
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Re: neumann 184 vs akg 480b 61 caps
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2008, 10:09:35 PM »
Twist.........Don't forget about the Ho's.
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Re: neumann 184 vs akg 480b 61 caps
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2008, 11:02:14 PM »
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Re: neumann 184 vs akg 480b 61 caps
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2008, 11:07:08 PM »
Beyerdynamic MC930   ;D
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backacha.    In all seriousness...  both mics (and the beyers, and the mbho) will make fine recordings.  The AKG (and mbho's) have the advantage of being able to purchase multiple caps, but the majority of us run just cardioids.  Try to find some recording made in your area with the mics if at all possible.  That may help narrow it down as well.

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Re: neumann 184 vs akg 480b 61 caps
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2008, 08:40:54 PM »
Thanks for the info guys the help, i have a pair of 480B w/ 61 cap but i am looking for a brighter sound ?????[

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Re: neumann 184 vs akg 480b 61 caps
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2008, 09:00:31 PM »
wow. really? i dont know of anything more bright than a 480. mbho maybe.
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Re: neumann 184 vs akg 480b 61 caps
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2008, 09:02:16 PM »
Chocolate or vanilla? Which one is better?

It is all personal preference, there is no such thing (IMO) as which microphone or cap is better. I prefer AKG.


exactly what carl said..  they both are very fine mikes for field recording, and both have their own "sound"...   just depends on which sound ya dig.    IMO the akg's are brighter (aka the akg "sizzle") while the neumann's are smoother and more natural sounding to my ears  (aka "silky" sound)..    either one is a fine choice!  (as is the aforementioned mc930's, but that doesnt answer your question..  I could list lots of mics that are as "good" as the ones you are asking about)

I hope this helps.. and good luck!
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Re: neumann 184 vs akg 480b 61 caps
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2008, 09:30:14 PM »
Chocolate or vanilla? Which one is better?

It is all personal preference, there is no such thing (IMO) as which microphone or cap is better. I prefer AKG.


exactly what carl said..  they both are very fine mikes for field recording, and both have their own "sound"...   just depends on which sound ya dig.    IMO the akg's are brighter (aka the akg "sizzle") while the neumann's are smoother and more natural sounding to my ears  (aka "silky" sound)..    either one is a fine choice!  (as is the aforementioned mc930's, but that doesnt answer your question..  I could list lots of mics that are as "good" as the ones you are asking about)

I hope this helps.. and good luck!

In my opinion Beyerdynamic MC930 sound better than either AKG or Neumann.  Cheaper price too.  Why not go with these?  The only plus of the Neumann IMO is the (slightly) smaller size.  But if you're going to put them on a stand, I see no problem.

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Re: neumann 184 vs akg 480b 61 caps
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2008, 11:48:04 PM »
Thanks for the info guys the help, i have a pair of 480B w/ 61 cap but i am looking for a brighter sound ?????[
For my ears 480's are brighter then ho's and the Neuman and the 930's are very transparent mics. Have you listened to DPA and shoep samples because maybe brighter is not really what your looking for. If those two are out of your budget like they are for me check out the MBHO's ans see what they sound like to ya.
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Re: neumann 184 vs akg 480b 61 caps
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2008, 12:01:50 AM »
In my opinion Beyerdynamic MC930 sound better than either AKG or Neumann. 


Again it's all personal opinion.  You'll find alot of folks in the AKG camp and alot in the others as well.  As a current/former owner of all three (480, KM140, MBHO) I would rank them on brightness like this:

MBHO
AKG
Neumann

The MBHO's to me are significantly brighter than the other two  The Neumann's I would never call transparent maybe more of a mid section than the AKG's and Ho's. 

The AKG's I feel are the most versatile of the three.   For me if I was considering mics in the class of the above three the Beyer's would not even enter into the conversation.  FWIW after owning all three I still have the AKG's with no intention to ever sell them.  If you are wanting to brighten them up there are several preamps that will help with the high end if that's what you want.

But again it's all personal opinion.



 

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