Topic: neumann 184 vs akg 480b 61 caps

[sygdwm]

i would think you could use a grace v3 to make the 481's brighter.

[TNJazz]

For me if I was considering mics in the class of the above three the Beyer's would not even enter into the conversation.

Why not?  Have you ever actually tried them yourself?  Just curious.

[JackoRoses]

Thanks for the info guys the help, i have a pair of 480B w/ 61 cap but i am looking for a brighter sound ??[

change the cables/ or preamp you run if you are looking for brighter sound.
Maybe find some silver's.
Myself I find them brought enough for me with the v3 and zaolla's while still bringing the low end.

[OFOTD]

i would think you could use a grace v3 to make the 481's brighter.

Exactly!   The brightness of the 480 > V3 is one of the reasons why I picked up the 248 to run with them because for me they were a bit too bright for my liking sometimes.

For me if I was considering mics in the class of the above three the Beyer's would not even enter into the conversation.

Why not?  Have you ever actually tried them yourself?  Just curious.

To be honest I have not run them myself.  I have listened to a good number of shows with the Beyer's recently.  I think they are a nice sounding microphone and mean no disrespect to them but for my personal tastes they run a distant fourth.  Again personal opinion as I am sure there are folks who find the 480's  distant third on their own lists.  Just not my cup of tea for the price range.

[sygdwm]

Exactly!   The brightness of the 480 > V3 is one of the reasons why I picked up the 248 to run with them because for me they were a bit too bright for my liking sometimes.

this also why i used to run 46/8x>m148>v3. too much sizzle.

[easy jim]

i would think you could use a grace v3 to make the 481's brighter.

Definitely!
Or, for other AKG mics that are brighter than 480/ck61 regardless of the pre, you could also go to the vintage 451 or 452/ck1

[Brian Skalinder]

I am sure there are folks who find the 480's  distant third on their own lists.

A distant third?  That's being generous. 

[OFOTD]

I am sure there are folks who find the 480's  distant third on their own lists.

A distant third?  That's being generous. 

 

[rokpunk]

save your money and buy some used 460's instead of the 480's.
they sound better, and are available all over the place.

[shaggy]

I prefer the 184s over the 481s.  I have owned both 140/50s and 481/3s.  The AKG 'sizzle' got kind of annoying after a year of owning them.  I still have the AK50s, a great cap for boomy venues.

I have to agree with rockpunk, I do enjoy the sound of the unmod'd 460s over 480s lately.  MOTB #005!

[JiB97]

save your money and buy some used 460's instead of the 480's.
they sound better, and are available all over the place.

Yep, proud 460 owner here too.  Long live the transformer!

[orechall]

the 460's with the reducer ring and the ck1 cap sound nice I much prefer the ck 1 cap to the 61 but ymmv

[easy jim]

the 460's with the reducer ring and the ck1 cap sound nice I much prefer the ck 1 cap to the 61 but ymmv

I agree, and 460s with ck1 caps may fit with the original poster's wishes.  The stock 460s with the ck6_ capsules probably would not, however, since he said he's looking for something brighter than the 480/ck61.  Stock 460s are decided darker sounding and less detailed than the 480s, though an equal or better mic IMO but for different reasons.

[ArchivalAudio]

don't own either
but have recorded with them
it's what your ears (and your playback system) like

personally I like the 184's but would prefer the 140's  or may be KM84's

over the 460 or 480

but that's me
in general
but I have heard great recordings with both

sounds like you (or someone) should arrange a comp
• same stand same pattern same show
• same or similar decks and pres

that would be cool and help to decide

but
I have neither
so its just my peanut gallery suggestion

peace
thru (Sharing) Music

-- Ian

[illconditioned]

save your money and buy some used 460's instead of the 480's.
they sound better, and are available all over the place.

Yep, proud 460 owner here too.  Long live the transformer!

Yep, I like the 460 better than the 480.  The 480 sounds a bit too edgy, seems to be distorting *to me*.  I used the ck63 caps.

  Richard