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Re: Do I get the Schoeps MK4, MK41's or MK5?
« Reply #75 on: July 16, 2013, 01:17:03 PM »
So, I'd say you've decided to go with the mk41s ;)
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v|Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3

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Re: Do I get the Schoeps MK4, MK41's or MK5?
« Reply #76 on: July 16, 2013, 01:27:04 PM »
So, I'd say you've decided to go with the mk41s ;)

I don't know - I keep changing my mind  :facepalm:

If I'm most satisfied with the CA14 omni's at the moment (exept for the clapping, chatter etc) - why upgrade to a supercardioid?  ::)

Perhaps I should settle with the MK4 and get less chatter, clapping than my CA14 omni's - but getting more detail and overall better sound ?

When standing on the floor at the 12,000 seater arena in Gothenburg, maybe the MK4 is sufficient at a good location anyway? (40-60 ft from the PA).

Just saying... it's hard to decide  ;D

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Re: Do I get the Schoeps MK4, MK41's or MK5?
« Reply #77 on: July 16, 2013, 01:33:11 PM »
So, I'd say you've decided to go with the mk41s ;)

I don't know - I keep changing my mind  :facepalm:

If I'm most satisfied with the CA14 omni's at the moment (exept for the clapping, chatter etc) - why upgrade to a supercardioid?  ::)

Perhaps I should settle with the MK4 and get less chatter, clapping than my CA14 omni's - but getting more detail and overall better sound ?

When standing on the floor at the 12,000 seater arena in Gothenburg, maybe the MK4 is sufficient at a good location anyway? (40-60 ft from the PA).

Just saying... it's hard to decide  ;D

Yeah I feel ya! It's a tough decision with so much $$$ involved!!! Just keep listening to stuff on archive.org and go from there
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v|Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3

http://www.archive.org/bookmarks/diskobean
http://www.archive.org/bookmarks/Bean420
http://bt.etree.org/mytorrents.php
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/j9eu80jpuaubz/Recordings

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Re: Do I get the Schoeps MK4, MK41's or MK5?
« Reply #78 on: July 16, 2013, 05:19:01 PM »
So, I'd say you've decided to go with the mk41s ;)

I don't know - I keep changing my mind  :facepalm:

If I'm most satisfied with the CA14 omni's at the moment (exept for the clapping, chatter etc) - why upgrade to a supercardioid?  ::)

Perhaps I should settle with the MK4 and get less chatter, clapping than my CA14 omni's - but getting more detail and overall better sound ?

 (40-60 ft from the PA).


41s!  Lock the thread
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Re: Do I get the Schoeps MK4, MK41's or MK5?
« Reply #79 on: July 16, 2013, 05:32:32 PM »
^ it's deja vu all over again.

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Re: Do I get the Schoeps MK4, MK41's or MK5?
« Reply #80 on: July 17, 2013, 11:37:38 AM »
Just curious, have you considered the microphones made in your home country?  There are some nice microphones made in Sweden-  Milab, Pearl, Line-Audio.

Nope - I've heard shows recorded in the 80's with Milab-mics though (small ones). Might have happened a few things after that (to the better)  ;)

Seems most of these brands are more suitable for acoustic settings.

/Jonas

Relative to the other comment here about Milabs I don't like the tone they reproduce, particularly on the highs, which can be grating.  Overall they have some clarity but don't seem accurate to my ear. 
Gear:
Audio:
Schoeps MK4V
Nak CM-100/CM-300 w/ CP-1's or CP-4's
SP-CMC-25
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Oade C mod R-44  OR
Tinybox > Sony PCM-M10 (formerly Roland R-05) 
Video: Varied, with various outboard mics depending on the situation

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Re: Do I get the Schoeps MK4 or MK41's?
« Reply #81 on: July 17, 2013, 11:40:15 AM »

It strikes me as conceptually analogous to what is perhaps the most important acoustic phenomenon in recording to my mind- the direct/reverberant ratio.



+1.  That really is what most of the fuss is about.  I think everyone has different tolerances for that ratio but I know what I like most  ;D   
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Schoeps MK4V
Nak CM-100/CM-300 w/ CP-1's or CP-4's
SP-CMC-25
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Oade C mod R-44  OR
Tinybox > Sony PCM-M10 (formerly Roland R-05) 
Video: Varied, with various outboard mics depending on the situation

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Re: Do I get the Schoeps MK4, MK41's or MK5?
« Reply #82 on: July 17, 2013, 12:50:19 PM »
I agree. I have zero plans for adding caps for a long while to come. Mk4/mk41 has me covered!
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v|Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3

http://www.archive.org/bookmarks/diskobean
http://www.archive.org/bookmarks/Bean420
http://bt.etree.org/mytorrents.php
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/j9eu80jpuaubz/Recordings

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Re: Do I get the Schoeps MK4, MK41's or MK5?
« Reply #83 on: July 17, 2013, 02:07:42 PM »
There's two trains of thought I see.  On the one hand, it IS hard to decide which is the best capsule for your situation.  There's lots of data to sort through and lots of recordings you can listen to.  It's alot of infomration to absorb, and differing opinions taboot...none of this makes the task of deciding any easier.

On the other hand, all of the capsules in the Schoeps line have similar sonic signatures to them and, to me, you're really contemplating features that won't result in DRASTIC differences to how your recordings will sound. 

In the end, whatever you decide, you're gonna get alot of really good recordings whatever you go with, so I wouldn't stress over the decision too much.
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Re: Do I get the Schoeps MK4, MK41's or MK5?
« Reply #84 on: July 22, 2013, 10:33:46 AM »
Hi again,

Those who would like to share a link to their best captures with the MK41's (stealth!!!) are more than welcome :)

/Jonas

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Re: Do I get the Schoeps MK4, MK41's or MK5?
« Reply #85 on: July 22, 2013, 10:40:35 AM »
Recording:
Capsules: Schoeps mk41v (x2), mk22 (x2), mk3 (x2), mk21 & mk8
Cables: 2x nbob KCY, 1 pair nbob actives, GAKables 10' & 20' 6-channel snakes, Darktrain 2 & 4 channel KCY and mini xlr extensions:
Preamps:    Schoeps VMS 02iub, Naiant IPA, Sound Devices Mixpre6 I
Recorders: Sound Devices Mixpre6 I, Sony PCM m10

Home Playback: Mac Mini> Mytek Brooklyn+> McIntosh MC162> Eminent Tech LFT-16; Musical Fidelity xCan v2> Hifiman HE-4XX / Beyerdynamic DT880

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Re: Do I get the Schoeps MK4, MK41's or MK5?
« Reply #86 on: July 22, 2013, 05:02:33 PM »
Hi again,

Those who would like to share a link to their best captures with the MK41's (stealth!!!) are more than welcome :)

/Jonas

Here's my most recent. Venue was a 250 capacity club:
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=163241.0
Schoeps MK41 |
Naiant Tinybox v2.5 w/OT
NBob Actives v2
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Re: Do I get the Schoeps MK4, MK41's or MK5?
« Reply #87 on: July 22, 2013, 05:09:11 PM »
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v|Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3

http://www.archive.org/bookmarks/diskobean
http://www.archive.org/bookmarks/Bean420
http://bt.etree.org/mytorrents.php
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/j9eu80jpuaubz/Recordings

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Re: Do I get the Schoeps MK4, MK41's or MK5?
« Reply #88 on: July 22, 2013, 05:53:46 PM »
Thanks guys!  :clapping:

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Re: Do I get the Schoeps MK4, MK41's or MK5?
« Reply #89 on: July 22, 2013, 06:41:01 PM »
Thanks guys!  :clapping:

Did you listen to my Dosio fob tape above?
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v|Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3

http://www.archive.org/bookmarks/diskobean
http://www.archive.org/bookmarks/Bean420
http://bt.etree.org/mytorrents.php
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/j9eu80jpuaubz/Recordings

 

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