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Re: So how DO $45/pair omnis sound?
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2006, 11:51:58 PM »
I wonder how these would work with the Microtracker's 30V phantom.

I e-mailed the guy, Jon, that makes the microphones on Friday. He uses Panasonic electret capsules with the now well known 4.7k resistor mod. He said his design was a little different, as he uses (2) 4.7k resistors. This should take care of any overloading at high SPL's. 18v DC is as low as you can go for phantom power. He said they sound a bit better with the full 48v.
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Re: So how DO $45/pair omnis sound?
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2006, 02:46:08 AM »
Hey guys,

Good seeing y'all at the show, the third set was off the hook, Oteil and Elizabeth playing bass, Jack and Delbert McClinton playing the hell out of the keys, highlight of the night for me

New record for myself tearing down at this show, Dirk I believe you had the whole multitrack rig torn down before I had two mics packed up.

So not to hijack this thread I can't believe you tried to run omnis when my roomate and I were trying to pick up those girls at the bar behind me in the picture.   Sweet spot for sure. 

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Re: So how DO $45/pair omnis sound?
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2006, 04:16:58 AM »
Yeah, the maker is a Carolina boy, great guy, and a real electronics whiz..

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Re: So how DO $45/pair omnis sound?
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2006, 05:06:23 AM »
thsi might be the best/coolest find ever, well, in a really long time ;D

+T fellas

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Re: So how DO $45/pair omnis sound?
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2006, 10:55:11 AM »
Greetings all, thanks to Teddy for the heads up on this thread.  I registered here a few days ago after an inquiry by Chuck, but I am not a taper myself so if there is something obvious to you it might be totally unapparent to me.  So feel free to point out something you feel would be useful.

A bit more about the mics:  They are Panasonic WM61A along with another FET and the associated components inside an XLR connector.  Therefore they are low output impedance.  They do take anything from 18V-48V phantom, in fact I test each mic with a 21V and a 48V pre.  Sound pressure level handling is higher with full phantom voltage, at 1% THD at 116dBSPL.

As for the Microtrack, I have one customer who reported adverse noise with that unit.  Doing some further research, I learned that the Microtrack supplies a very limited amount of current, which would mean that the voltage seen by the MSH-1A would drop below specification.  It would be possible for me to make a "Microtrack" version of the MSH-1A that draws less current, if there is someone interested in experimenting with that, please contact me at music@naiant.com.  Such a version would have lower SPL rating as well as slightly higher THD @ 94kHz, however.

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Re: So how DO $45/pair omnis sound?
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2006, 11:17:36 AM »
Jon, about your naming convention:

So the MSH-1A is MS Hilarious? Like the name of a ship?
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Re: So how DO $45/pair omnis sound?
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2006, 12:02:32 PM »

So not to hijack this thread I can't believe you tried to run omnis when my roomate and I were trying to pick up those girls at the bar behind me in the picture.   Sweet spot for sure. 


Yeah, the omnis definitely picked up a good bit of bar chatter  (I didn't know Kevin was a famous brain surgeon and that you have a villa in Spain...it's amazing the things you hear with omnis...! :P)

All kidding aside, I'm really interested in how these will sound in an on-stage situation.  That will make Saturday's show very interesting indeed.
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Re: So how DO $45/pair omnis sound?
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2006, 01:25:19 PM »
I bet cardioids and especially hyper-cardioids would be popular here!
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Re: So how DO $45/pair omnis sound?
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2006, 01:45:00 PM »
Sound pretty good from the sound bite, just bought a pair very interested in playing around with them. Thanks for the heads up Dirk.

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Re: So how DO $45/pair omnis sound?
« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2006, 02:21:26 PM »
I just bought a matched pair of these things. Haven't even used the omni caps that came with my C4s but the terminally impoverished part of my brain managed to convince my fingers to go from 'add to cart' to clicking 'pay'.  ::)

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Re: So how DO $45/pair omnis sound?
« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2006, 02:27:20 PM »
Is it $50 for the pair of matched mics, clips, and windscreens?

Just wondering, I think thats the right price b/c the stand bar is $15 seperate and the whole package is $65, so minus the stand bar it come out to $50.

Would that be the price Jon?

+T for the mics, waiting to get this sample d/led  ;D
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Re: So how DO $45/pair omnis sound?
« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2006, 02:32:21 PM »
I was looking to get them without the bar, too. Clicking around I found this page: http://www.naiant.com/studiostore/microphoneaccessories.html

Scroll down and you'll find:

mics = $44/pair
clips = $2 each
windscreens = $4 each

Hope that helps.
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Re: So how DO $45/pair omnis sound?
« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2006, 02:38:48 PM »
I was looking to get them without the bar, too. Clicking around I found this page: http://www.naiant.com/studiostore/microphoneaccessories.html

Scroll down and you'll find:

mics = $44/pair
clips = $2 each
windscreens = $4 each

Hope that helps.

I saw that and added 44+2+4 = 50

but I thought the prices were for pair.

I guess I will just wait for him to write back on here.
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Re: So how DO $45/pair omnis sound?
« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2006, 02:39:41 PM »
I skipped the clips and went with:

$44 - (2) matched MSH-1A's
$  8 - (2) windscreens at $4 ea.
$  2 - shipping
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$54 total  :o
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Re: So how DO $45/pair omnis sound?
« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2006, 09:26:31 AM »
am i the only one who gets "Windows Media Player cannot play the file.  One or more codecs required to play the file could not be found"

i'm using Windows Media Player 10, and i even reinstalled it but still no go.  All my other .wav files play fine ...

any ideas  ???

 

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