Topic: Small mics ?

[Nick's Picks]

hey all...

are there any condensors out there that are the size of 140/184s and are on the same playing field?
specificaly, length is my concern (coughs...looks away sheepishly).

I miss my 140's, but dont need actives.  I have a nice little lowprofile rig that is just needing some mics.  I might just have to hunt up some 184s.

[JasonSobel]

The DPA 4022's seem like they would fit the bill.  nice, small, and compact
of course, considerably more costly than the km184's, but you didn't mention anything about price. 

[Brian Skalinder]

KM184s = 107mm length (dunno if w/ or w/o XLR)
MBHO 440s = 85mm length (w/o XLR)
MG M300s = 130mm (dunno if w/ or w/o XLR)

[JasonSobel]

I'd probably go with a pair of Audix Micro's before a pair of MBHO's.  those are some nice, small mics as well.

[olyrc]

Josephson c42

[Nick's Picks]

audix need not apply.  been there, done that.  not in the same class as the neumanns.
mg300s?
hmmm.....

[spyder9]

The C4s are small and sound real nice.  I'm impressed with what I've heard from them.

[Nick's Picks]

studio projects eh?
I'll have to see how long they are.

mmm...140s.  I feel the urge calling me back.

off topic, but what are the feelings between 140's and 184s?
same, not the same?  I've never used both to compare.

[KLowe]

Done a lot of "research"...reading TS.com and gearslutz.com and it seems like the consensus is that the 184 and 140 are the same.  Someone on gearslutz was arguing that the 140 had a better response rate during peak volumes.  I'll see if I can find that thread.


If I can get someone to lone me a 184 I will run an 140 and a 184 next week during galactic and papa mali.  (just bought a 140 and cannot afford another one right now).   anyone willing to loan a 184 or 140 for 5 days next week?  Ethan can vouch for me. 

[svenkid]

Josephson c42

yeah these are snall. I used to run these, probably about three inches long

[RebelRebel]

studio projects eh?
I'll have to see how long they are.

mmm...140s.  I feel the urge calling me back.

off topic, but what are the feelings between 140's and 184s?
same, not the same?  I've never used both to compare.

Same. The Neumann folks say they are the same, and they sound the same. Same.

Nick,M300s are excellent mics. If you decide to go MG, please PM me. I can help you out.

[BobW]

Done a lot of "research"...reading TS.com and gearslutz.com and it seems like the consensus is that the 184 and 140 are the same.  Someone on gearslutz was arguing that the 140 had a better response rate during peak volumes.  I'll see if I can find that thread.

I'm reasonably sure that this is wrong.
Never discount body resonace.
Other factors are involved as well.

My ears have told me that the KM140 is the way to go for concert taping.
Gearslutz has allot of opinions, some excellent, some just opinions, just like anywhere else
I won't comment on TS.com, as the ticket troll has been "up my behind" all week already

If you have the means, get the KM-140s.  I sure wish that I did.

[Nick's Picks]

I am familiar w/the sound of both neumanns, and find them pretty much the same (though, never done a head to head comparrison).
if anything, the 184's sound a little more sparkely to me and the 140s, a little darker, but both sound very, very similar.  Probably to the point that I doubt I could pick one over the other in a blind test.
w/the 184's being about 2", or less, longer than the capsule and active cable end together, I see it pointless to spend 2x as much on them.

[nickgregory]

the mg300s are only slightly longer than the 184s and sound better imo.  The MG300s have the neumann sound that you get with the KM84i and other vintage neumann gear imo.  Fantastic mics and tough to make a bad tape with them

[Nick's Picks]

but never come up used, and are probably much more than the 7bills that is standard for a pair of 184's.
I know they are nice, and would excell w/my T+ UA5 sound. 

theyd be my first choice, if it were not for that stupid money thing.