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LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« on: November 12, 2007, 06:26:59 PM »
Anyone know the part number for the lemo connector used on the AKG MK46 active cable? Wanting to make some extensions.
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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2007, 06:34:26 PM »
Anyone know the part number for the lemo connector used on the AKG MK46 active cable? Wanting to make some extensions.

Try sending a PM to 'esteyes' (Neil S.)  He has the schematics somehwere, has rebuilt his own a few times, and is currently working on the AKG actives project.  I'm sure he could help.

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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2007, 07:46:40 PM »
Thanks for the suggestion. +T.  Not sure why this got moved to "microphones and setup" this is about a cable.
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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2007, 07:58:26 PM »
please post what ever you might find ...

I'd love to have an extra cable made up
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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2007, 08:14:16 PM »
//hijack mode on

Are there ANY options out there for going lemo connector to CK6X capsule...homebrew or pro?  I just bought Andrew Berg's AK46 cables just to have them and I will of course jump at any future yard sale offers to sell ck1x, ck2x, or ck3x, but in the meantime I was just wondering if anybody has jury-rigged a workable solution to go from lemo to the CK61, 62 or 63 caps...or I suppose another option would be to replace the lemo on the cables with something that works with the 6x series capsules.

Thanks for letting me hijack long enough to ask.

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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2007, 09:38:13 PM »
Unless you find a used JK Labs unit, or build your own box, then there is no option for using CK6x capsules actively.
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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2007, 04:43:58 PM »
in the original setup, akg paired the 460's not with the new CK6x caps, but elected to modify the previous series of caps - the CKx's. so the MK46 has some electronics in the portion that screws onto the 460 body. the caps were CKx caps that were also changed in that they lengthened the capsule housing in order to accomodate the LEMO connector mount as well as the additional electronics required to make remoting of the caps a functional setup.

i suggest you follow the akg active thread. there were many contributors, but for some reason it seems i am the one pursuing this to completion. i will add to the list the need for an "adapter" to allow 460 + MK46 owners to be able to plug in CK6x caps to their existing setup. in actuality, this might be the easiest thing to make...

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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2007, 04:46:15 PM »
so back to the original question before the hi-jack. Neil, Do you know the part number for the Lemo connector on the MK46 cable that plugs into the CK-1x capsule?
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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2007, 05:07:40 PM »
 FFA.0S.303.CLAC17 but don't hold me to it. they make three different sizes for the three pin connectors. i would have to get out the venier and check. i will do it tonite or tomorrow and repost.

lemo's are pretty robust... hard as hell to solder... any reason you need some??

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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2007, 05:29:17 PM »
FFA.0S.303.CLAC17 but don't hold me to it. they make three different sizes for the three pin connectors. i would have to get out the venier and check. i will do it tonite or tomorrow and repost.

lemo's are pretty robust... hard as hell to solder... any reason you need some??

neil

Lemos are great, if you can find a source for new parts.  I didn't find them hard to solder.  The trick is having thin wires to fit into the pins.  I built a battery for for Aberg to run CK1x caps.  He bought a cable on Ebay and we scavenged the connectors from that.  So, yes, I have soldered these :).

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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2007, 05:38:56 PM »
FFA.0S.303.CLAC17 but don't hold me to it. they make three different sizes for the three pin connectors. i would have to get out the venier and check. i will do it tonite or tomorrow and repost.

lemo's are pretty robust... hard as hell to solder... any reason you need some??

neil
Im going to make extensions for my MK46 cables that will also double as a cable for a 3 wire battery box to power just the capsules for stealth stuff.  Thanks for the help with the part #'s Neil. +T.  Any chance you have a place that sells them?
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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2007, 12:53:21 AM »

Lemos are great, if you can find a source for new parts.  I didn't find them hard to solder.  The trick is having thin wires to fit into the pins.  I built a battery for for Aberg to run CK1x caps.  He bought a cable on Ebay and we scavenged the connectors from that.  So, yes, I have soldered these :).

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Richard.  Which pin was which when you wired it for battery box usage?
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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2007, 12:26:54 AM »
FFA.0S.303.CLAC17 but don't hold me to it. they make three different sizes for the three pin connectors. i would have to get out the venier and check. i will do it tonite or tomorrow and repost.

lemo's are pretty robust... hard as hell to solder... any reason you need some??

neil

Thats the same part number I used.  I'm planning to build some cables and bypass the mic bodies.

There are a few choices depending on cable size

Straight Plug
FFA.OS.303.CLACxx
where xx is a number to indicate the maximum cable size OD
1.3-1.6mm suffex 17
3-3.6mm suffex 37
3.3-4.1mm suffex 42
3.5-4.3mm suffex 44


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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2007, 09:13:41 AM »
Joe, where did you get your parts from? which cable brand and diameter did you use?
Thanks for all the input guys.  Round of T's :)
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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2007, 02:15:21 PM »
2nd the thanks for that info...


I really really need and extra cable or two in the bag in case one fails.... 
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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2007, 03:55:11 PM »
2nd the thanks for that info...


I really really need and extra cable or two in the bag in case one fails.... 

Tim:

I thought you were selling yours.  Musta decided to keep 'em huh?

BTW, I think the part number is just for the female half of the connector.  Can you get the male half of this connector also?  If so, does anybody have a part no. for that?  I'd like to try something out if I can get my hands on an extra set of these...both male and female halves.

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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2007, 04:08:22 PM »
The hard part with these is actually finding someone who stocks them and will sell less than a large quantity.

I contacted Lemo and they told me I had to go through a distributor and so far I have had no luck getting them.
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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2007, 01:32:06 PM »
what type of quantity?

if someone wanted to take on the project im sure a number of people would be down to have their mk46 rebuilt  ;) ;D
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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2007, 09:59:47 AM »
what type of quantity?

if someone wanted to take on the project im sure a number of people would be down to have their mk46 rebuilt  ;) ;D

^^ yup

I'd chip in for more then the initial one i need


keep mine for awhile it seems... the yardsale is shitty on prices these days and i didn't want to use ebay..

i'd love to get some new cables tho, and maybe a small box to replace the bodies
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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2007, 10:08:25 AM »
Id buy 4 even though I only need two. I would also buy a couple of female counterparts as well if it went that way.
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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2007, 09:41:44 PM »
Joe, where did you get your parts from? which cable brand and diameter did you use?
Thanks for all the input guys.  Round of T's :)

Sorry for the slow reply. I didn't build the cables yet.  I got as far as doing the research to identify the correct part # and a source  but I haven't ordered yet.  I was still trying to decide on the type of cable which would determine the connector size.

I did find a place to order these from.  I'll find the phone number and post it. 

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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2007, 08:32:26 AM »
Thanks Joe. +T
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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2008, 04:24:42 PM »
any help on a source for these?

One of mine got stepped on last weekend and needs replacing.
Would like to get a few spares.
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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2008, 02:12:30 PM »
i can fix these cables - in the past, i have repaired many mk46 cables and never had to replace a Lemo connector due to failure of the contacts. i have seen them damaged from unintended abuse, but traditionally the cause of failure in the mk46 has been the triaxial cable AKG used.

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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2008, 02:30:24 PM »
any help on a source for these?

One of mine got stepped on last weekend and needs replacing.


bummer man.
didnt you JUST buy those?

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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2008, 12:17:11 PM »
any help on a source for these?

One of mine got stepped on last weekend and needs replacing.


bummer man.
didnt you JUST buy those?

yes I just bought em....I was using then on the stage lip for a 4 ch for the band I do FOH for.
They were hidden in some garland (it was a holiday party for a diamond merchant) and at some point somone wrapped the garland aroung their neck for some drunk dancing and the ck1Xs were on the floor.
Somebody crunched one of the lemos, but not the caps.

Neil...I sent you a pm about fixing my MK46 cables. I'm not sure I can even get my soldering iron in these little things.
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Re: LEMO Part number for AKG MK46
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2008, 09:26:27 PM »
yeah, they are a pain to solder. well it really requires lots o patience. will pm you with repair info in a few.

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