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Re: Zoom F8 - Part 2
« Reply #60 on: December 25, 2015, 06:18:19 PM »
Firmware update for the F8 is now up on the Zoom NA site. Just saw the notice on FB.  Can't paste the link, as I'm using a Kindle Fire at the moment.
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Re: Zoom F8 - Part 2
« Reply #61 on: December 25, 2015, 06:36:50 PM »
I just noticed this comment in an F8 review on BH: 3. The input channel gain is controlled digitally, so changing gain, especially quickly, results in "zipper" noise, which will be recorded. Normally, the gain should be pre-adjusted and then left alone during a recording session, so this should not be an issue, but if you find you're recording "too-hot" and need to make a gain adjustment, it's important to know that this may result in some noise.
 
Is the reviewer saying that the Zoom has digital pots and that when you adjust the trim there is stepping noise? This was the case with the original Tascam DR-60D and was a significant problem for many users. This is a little concerning, especially for someone like me who does run n' gun documentary and does have to adjust trim "on the fly" in unpredictable sound environments.

Maybe the reviewer -- Lotus 7 can elaborate if he/she is on the forum? Thanks.

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Re: Zoom F8 - Part 2
« Reply #62 on: December 25, 2015, 07:32:59 PM »
Firmware update for the F8 is now up on the Zoom NA site. Just saw the notice on FB.  Can't paste the link, as I'm using a Kindle Fire at the moment.

Trim link was added!?!? What? The ability to gang channel's & use one input knob to adjust gain? Sweet!

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Re: Zoom F8 - Part 2
« Reply #63 on: December 25, 2015, 08:53:51 PM »
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Re: Zoom F8 - Part 2
« Reply #64 on: December 25, 2015, 11:50:59 PM »
Here's the list of improvements.  There is a Santa!

"In the short period of time the new Zoom F8 has been available, we have received some great feedback. Here are 14 improvements that we think you’ll like…a lot.

1.   Added Trim Knob option that enables adjusting fader/pan settings with input trim knobs.
2.   Added the function of moving the previously recorded take to the new FALSE TAKE folder.
3.   Expanded Function Shortcuts as well as Shortcut List Menu.
4.   Added the function of selecting alphabet letters for the scene number.
5.   Added Trim Link function for adjusting the input levels of multiple tracks simultaneously.
6.   Added the function of editing track name in Meta data.
7.   Added the function of showing track names on the level meters.
8.   Added the function that enables selecting “Scene_***” for the format of take name.
9.   Added the function of adjusting L/R track volume.
10.   Added SOLO function that enables monitoring signals of specific tracks only during playback.
11.   Added sound report function for exporting CSV format file including recorded take information, etc.
12.   Changed the location of Next Take menu on MENU>REC>Next Take to MENU>META DATA (for next take).
13.   Added the function of applying edits of the selected card to the other card when two SD cards are inserted.
14.   Changed the track order of Poly WAV recorded files from Tr1, Tr2, …, Tr8, L, R to L, R, Tr1, Tr2, …, Tr8.

You can download the Zoom F8 Firmware v2.00 here: https://zoom-na.com/products/field-video-recording/field-recording/zoom-f8-multitrack-field-recorder#downloads

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Re: Zoom F8 - Part 2
« Reply #65 on: December 26, 2015, 07:20:33 AM »
Yep.  Channel linking added.  Yay!

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Re: Zoom F8 - Part 2
« Reply #66 on: December 26, 2015, 07:06:40 PM »
Can you set up two groups of ganged controls? For example gang four channels together, controlled by one knob, and another four by another knob?
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Re: Zoom F8 - Part 2
« Reply #67 on: December 26, 2015, 09:52:22 PM »
Can you set up two groups of ganged controls? For example gang four channels together, controlled by one knob, and another four by another knob?

I'm not home from holidays yet so i haven't installed the update to check this directly on my unit, but if i interpret the revised menu diagrams and instructions properly, the user is provided with the ability to set up as many as four different user defined gang configurations (named group A, B, C, or D).  For the selected group, the trim knob of the lowest numbered channel in the group controls the entire group.  The one unfortunate caveat is the instructions say that no single channel can appear in more than one group.
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Re: Zoom F8 - Part 2
« Reply #68 on: December 26, 2015, 11:09:45 PM »
I'm not home from holidays yet so i haven't installed the update to check this directly on my unit, but if i interpret the revised menu diagrams and instructions properly, the user is provided with the ability to set up as many as four different user defined gang configurations (named group A, B, C, or D).  For the selected group, the trim knob of the lowest numbered channel in the group controls the entire group.

That's very promising - thanks!

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Re: Zoom F8 - Part 2
« Reply #69 on: December 28, 2015, 08:57:49 AM »
I just made a cheat sheet with the new added shortcut functions, in case those of you want to print it & stick it on the top of your recorder  :D

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Re: Zoom F8 - Part 2
« Reply #70 on: December 28, 2015, 10:17:36 AM »
SOS (Sound on Sound) review of the f8: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec15/articles/zoom-f8.htm

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Re: Zoom F8 - Part 2
« Reply #71 on: December 29, 2015, 06:29:53 AM »
I just noticed this comment in an F8 review on BH: 3. The input channel gain is controlled digitally, so changing gain, especially quickly, results in "zipper" noise, which will be recorded. Normally, the gain should be pre-adjusted and then left alone during a recording session, so this should not be an issue, but if you find you're recording "too-hot" and need to make a gain adjustment, it's important to know that this may result in some noise.
 
Is the reviewer saying that the Zoom has digital pots and that when you adjust the trim there is stepping noise? This was the case with the original Tascam DR-60D and was a significant problem for many users. This is a little concerning, especially for someone like me who does run n' gun documentary and does have to adjust trim "on the fly" in unpredictable sound environments.


I'm also a bit concerned about the stepping noise issue. That would be a dealbreaker and is not acceptable at this price point. Tonedeaf didn't mention any "zipper" noise in his review, though.

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Re: Zoom F8 - Part 2
« Reply #72 on: December 29, 2015, 09:28:10 AM »
I just noticed this comment in an F8 review on BH: 3. The input channel gain is controlled digitally, so changing gain, especially quickly, results in "zipper" noise, which will be recorded. Normally, the gain should be pre-adjusted and then left alone during a recording session, so this should not be an issue, but if you find you're recording "too-hot" and need to make a gain adjustment, it's important to know that this may result in some noise.
 
Is the reviewer saying that the Zoom has digital pots and that when you adjust the trim there is stepping noise? This was the case with the original Tascam DR-60D and was a significant problem for many users. This is a little concerning, especially for someone like me who does run n' gun documentary and does have to adjust trim "on the fly" in unpredictable sound environments.


I'm also a bit concerned about the stepping noise issue. That would be a dealbreaker and is not acceptable at this price point. Tonedeaf didn't mention any "zipper" noise in his review, though.

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No, he didn't. In fact, the BH reviewer is the only one to my knowledge to mention it. Maybe just an issue with his unit?...


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Re: Zoom F8 - Part 2
« Reply #73 on: December 29, 2015, 10:34:03 AM »
I just noticed this comment in an F8 review on BH: 3. The input channel gain is controlled digitally, so changing gain, especially quickly, results in "zipper" noise, which will be recorded. Normally, the gain should be pre-adjusted and then left alone during a recording session, so this should not be an issue, but if you find you're recording "too-hot" and need to make a gain adjustment, it's important to know that this may result in some noise.
 
Is the reviewer saying that the Zoom has digital pots and that when you adjust the trim there is stepping noise? This was the case with the original Tascam DR-60D and was a significant problem for many users. This is a little concerning, especially for someone like me who does run n' gun documentary and does have to adjust trim "on the fly" in unpredictable sound environments.

Yeah, I've adjusted levels on it, both using the knobs and using the bluetooth app, and not had this issue.
I'm also a bit concerned about the stepping noise issue. That would be a dealbreaker and is not acceptable at this price point. Tonedeaf didn't mention any "zipper" noise in his review, though.

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Re: Zoom F8 - Part 2
« Reply #74 on: December 29, 2015, 11:00:32 AM »

That would be a dealbreaker and is not acceptable at this price point.

This is a common issue with digitally controlled gain. There are units that cost 4x as much that do this.

 

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