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mic preamp chip upgrade for Beyerdynamic MV-100 pre
« on: July 16, 2004, 02:23:19 AM »
i've been tinkering with the idea of upgrading the preamp IC on my mv100. the mv100 utilizes the discontinued Analog Devices SSM 2017 mic preamp IC.

i've been looking at this one: THAT 1510 http://www.thatcorp.com/1510spec.html but they are not available yet.

so, i contacted Analog Devices and got 2 free samples of their SSM2019, which is their latest version and has the same pin configuration in DIP setting.

the replacement looks very easy and according the AD's tech, it should be a simple procedure.

before i do the replacement, i'll record some test tones and some music with the stock mv100 and do the same for the modded version, all done with the environment controlled as best as possible.

hope the difference with the mod is notable!

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Re: mic preamp chip upgrade for Beyerdynamic MV-100 pre
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2004, 11:01:59 AM »
Cool, Marc!  +T  Let us know what you think of the sound after the upgrade.
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Re: mic preamp chip upgrade for Beyerdynamic MV-100 pre
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2004, 11:18:15 AM »
doesnt look too shabby at all really, you can do it bro :)
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Re: mic preamp chip upgrade for Beyerdynamic MV-100 pre
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2004, 01:01:53 PM »
interested to hear some samples

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Re: mic preamp chip upgrade for Beyerdynamic MV-100 pre
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2004, 01:14:09 AM »
T+ hope it turns out well.

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Re: mic preamp chip upgrade for Beyerdynamic MV-100 pre
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2004, 12:36:39 PM »
I looked into to replacing the chips on the ua5 i got the impression that it wasnt easy to do. It that something that can be done??

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Re: mic preamp chip upgrade for Beyerdynamic MV-100 pre
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2004, 05:08:28 PM »
I looked into to replacing the chips on the ua5 i got the impression that it wasnt easy to do. It that something that can be done??

i wouldn't think it will be too difficult to simply replace an existing IC with an alternate one.

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Re: mic preamp chip upgrade for Beyerdynamic MV-100 pre
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2004, 05:53:37 PM »
Isnt that basicly what the oade mod is?? I know they do some more but the chip would change the sound

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Re: mic preamp chip upgrade for Beyerdynamic MV-100 pre
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2004, 07:21:15 PM »


It depends on the IC package too.  If it's through hole mounted DIP, then it should be easy if you are careful, but surface mount devices can be tricky for a novice and you need to be careful not to use too much heat or you will cause the trace to seperate from the board.

in addition to replacing the opamps, you could probably get some improvement by replacing the coupling capacitors with some higher end ones like the Auricaps. 
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Re: mic preamp chip upgrade for Beyerdynamic MV-100 pre
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2004, 09:16:16 AM »
My uncle has done this kinda of work for years. I could get him to do it for me. I know there was a post about this a while back. It seems like the parts are cheap enough




It depends on the IC package too.  If it's through hole mounted DIP, then it should be easy if you are careful, but surface mount devices can be tricky for a novice and you need to be careful not to use too much heat or you will cause the trace to seperate from the board.

in addition to replacing the opamps, you could probably get some improvement by replacing the coupling capacitors with some higher end ones like the Auricaps. 

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Re: mic preamp chip upgrade for Beyerdynamic MV-100 pre
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2004, 09:56:01 AM »
This is a great site for the ua5  http://he.fi/photo/ua5-dissection/



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Re: mic preamp chip upgrade for Beyerdynamic MV-100 pre
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2004, 03:25:50 PM »
well, the SSM2019 have arrived. off to UPS to pick up the pkg. i'll keep ya posted on the progress.

marc
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Re: mic preamp chip upgrade for Beyerdynamic MV-100 pre
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2004, 08:08:07 PM »
the new SSM2019 chip

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Re: mic preamp chip upgrade for Beyerdynamic MV-100 pre
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2004, 04:33:16 PM »
So how is this project coming?  I have an MV100 that I would be interested in modding if the difference is worthwhile.  updates?
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Re: mic preamp chip upgrade for Beyerdynamic MV-100 pre
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2004, 07:24:50 PM »
So how is this project coming?  I have an MV100 that I would be interested in modding if the difference is worthwhile.  updates?
Brad

yes, it's still in the works. i just ordered some Burr-Brown chips and 8pin DIP mounts. this way, i can switch from one chip to another without soldering for easier  comparisons.

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