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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: BobW on January 15, 2004, 11:06:15 PM
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Picture this, if you will.
20 foot wide stage with big old theatre horns(Klipsch) on either side.
An overhead I-Beam to clamp on about 10 feet from the stage.
Tin ceiling, circa 1941, about 10 feet up. Place holds about 220 folks.
A live act playing rock/ blues/ bluegrass.
Think Keller Williams, Yonder, Charlie Hunter Quartet, or any 4-5 piece blues act that you've ever seen.
You have a pair of Oktava MC-012 cardioids and are running them for the first time out. You get a pretty decent recording, even tho' it's your first time out because a lot of kind folks answered a survey that you posted on Taperssection.org.
See above, and thanks in advance ! ;D
OK, skip Blumlein, I just realized cards can't do that. I did say that I'm new, didn't I ?
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I ran NOS at the Bridge last night, and I think it sounds great. A vote for NOS over here. ;)
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I voted for DIN
I use km184 which are cards too, and run DIN at most small inside places, I run ORTF outside and in really open good sounding theaters
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xy, you are gonna be close, but dont want to minimize the spacing too much
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X/Y with DIN a close second
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if you are only gonna be 10' feet away from the 20' wide stage i'd go NOS or ortf. but i've never seen the place so i can't really give a good answer. if you are gonna be in the back of the venue, x/y all the way.
Brian
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as a newbie w/ a deep desire to learn, ive got to admit that the code is killing me. i couldnt even answer the poll because im not clear what the options mean. anyone know where i could learn the lingo?
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http://dpamicrophones.com/eng_pub/MicUni/Main.html
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Most situations I run the MC012's DIN. In great situations...FOB/DFC. ORTF just to give you a sence of sound coming to you from behind.
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.... ORTF just to give you a sence sound coming to you from behind.
Hmm, well then, I just won't go there. ;D
Sounds like a phase-inversion, though don't it ?
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Anymore voters before this gets closed ?
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.... ORTF just to give you a sence sound coming to you from behind.
Hmm, well then, I just won't go there. ;D
Sounds like a phase-inversion, though don't it ?
No not an inversion, but a very wide image. I like that a lot. I don't like XY. Yes it is focused and can solve some problems, but it sounds like a recording not like your there. I also have the hyper and omni caps for the Octavas. Just ran a Healy set up with the omnis on the stage lip on friday....Freakin great. Tons of acurate bass and a wide detailed image...what I dig. I've had these mics for a year and I've tried almost everything. Tons of fun. Highly reccomend these for anyone starting or looking for something to mess around with. I got bored with one type of mic.
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.... ORTF just to give you a sence sound coming to you from behind.
Hmm, well then, I just won't go there. ;D
Sounds like a phase-inversion, though don't it ?
No not an inversion, but a very wide image. I like that a lot. I don't like XY. Yes it is focused and can solve some problems, but it sounds like a recording not like your there. I also have the hyper and omni caps for the Octavas. Just ran a Healy set up with the omnis on the stage lip on friday....Freakin great. Tons of acurate bass and a wide detailed image...what I dig. I've had these mics for a year and I've tried almost everything. Tons of fun. Highly reccomend these for anyone starting or looking for something to mess around with. I got bored with one type of mic.
After reading this thread I tried X/Y with my Octavas Sunday night using the cardioid caps. I didn't like it. I usually run DIN, NOS or Nutter. The "air" that I like in my recordings was missing with X/Y. It sounded a bit too "mono" for my taste. The X/Y recordings that I like are generally very close to the source, not from a balcony in a club or in the TS.
I might try X/Y with hypers sometime to see if that makes a big difference.
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Sounds like a new thread to me