Topic: Oktava Cards in Small Club

[BobW]

Picture this, if you will.
20 foot wide stage with big old theatre horns(Klipsch) on either side.
An overhead I-Beam to clamp on about 10 feet from the stage.
Tin ceiling, circa 1941, about 10 feet up. Place holds about 220 folks.

A live act playing rock/ blues/ bluegrass.
Think Keller Williams, Yonder, Charlie Hunter Quartet, or any 4-5 piece blues act that you've ever seen.

You have a pair of Oktava MC-012 cardioids and are running them for the first time out. You get a pretty decent recording, even tho' it's your first time out because a lot of kind folks answered a survey that you posted on Taperssection.org.
See above, and thanks in advance !  

OK, skip Blumlein, I just realized cards can't do that.  I did say that I'm new, didn't I ?

[John Kelly]

I ran NOS at the Bridge last night, and I think it sounds great.  A vote for NOS over here.

[RobC]

I voted for DIN
I use km184 which are cards too,  and run DIN at most small inside places,  I run ORTF outside and in really open good sounding theaters

[jpschust]

xy, you are gonna be close, but dont want to minimize the spacing too much

[nic]

X/Y with DIN a close second

[Brian]

if you are only gonna be 10' feet away from the 20' wide stage i'd go NOS or ortf. but i've never seen the place so i can't really give a good answer.  if you are gonna be in the back of the venue, x/y all the way.

Brian

[Jimna]

as a newbie w/ a deep desire to learn, ive got to admit that the code is killing me.  i couldnt even answer the poll because im not clear what the options mean.  anyone know where i could learn the lingo?

[Diggin]

http://dpamicrophones.com/eng_pub/MicUni/Main.html

[Jason R]

Most situations I run the MC012's DIN.  In great situations...FOB/DFC.  ORTF just to give you a sence of sound coming to you from behind.

[BobW]

.... ORTF just to give you a sence sound coming to you from behind.

Hmm, well then, I just won't go there.  

Sounds like a phase-inversion, though don't it ?

[BobW]

Anymore voters before this gets closed ?

[Jason R]

.... ORTF just to give you a sence sound coming to you from behind.

Hmm, well then, I just won't go there.  

Sounds like a phase-inversion, though don't it ?

No not an inversion, but a very wide image.  I like that a lot.  I don't like XY.  Yes it is focused and can solve some problems, but it sounds like a recording not like your there.  I also have the hyper and omni caps for the Octavas.  Just ran a Healy set up with the omnis on the stage lip on friday....Freakin great.  Tons of acurate bass and a wide detailed image...what I dig.  I've had these mics for a year and I've tried almost everything.  Tons of fun.  Highly reccomend these for anyone starting or looking for something to mess around with.  I got bored with one type of mic.

[Chuck]

.... ORTF just to give you a sence sound coming to you from behind.

Hmm, well then, I just won't go there.  

Sounds like a phase-inversion, though don't it ?

No not an inversion, but a very wide image.  I like that a lot.  I don't like XY.  Yes it is focused and can solve some problems, but it sounds like a recording not like your there.  I also have the hyper and omni caps for the Octavas.  Just ran a Healy set up with the omnis on the stage lip on friday....Freakin great.  Tons of acurate bass and a wide detailed image...what I dig.  I've had these mics for a year and I've tried almost everything.  Tons of fun.  Highly reccomend these for anyone starting or looking for something to mess around with.  I got bored with one type of mic.

After reading this thread I tried X/Y with my Octavas Sunday night using the cardioid caps. I didn't like it. I usually run DIN,  NOS or Nutter. The "air" that I like in my recordings was missing with X/Y. It sounded a bit too "mono" for my taste. The X/Y recordings that I like are generally very close to the source, not from a balcony in a club or in the TS.

I might try X/Y with hypers sometime to see if that makes a big difference.

[BobW]

Sounds like a new thread to me