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Title: run the -10 db on the oktavas?
Post by: super-phat-al on November 07, 2003, 05:11:55 PM: should i run this on these mics? Im going to be doing my first real show this saturday with leftover salmon and del.
Title: Re:run the -10 db on the oktavas?
Post by: Swampy on November 07, 2003, 05:17:33 PM: I doubt it for LoS and Del...
Title: Re:run the -10 db on the oktavas?
Post by: Tim on November 07, 2003, 05:48:00 PM: no

you'll probably never need them
Title: Re:run the -10 db on the oktavas?
Post by: Nick Culbreth on November 07, 2003, 05:51:20 PM: the oktavas aren't very hot mics and the pad isn't the best so i'd avoid it at all costs.
Title: Re:run the -10 db on the oktavas?
Post by: Chuck on November 07, 2003, 06:00:43 PM: Read this thread:

http://www.taperssection.com/yabbse/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=6603;start=30

Taylor at the Sound Room (source for "matched" MC012's)
says basically never run the -10db pad.
Title: Re:run the -10 db on the oktavas?
Post by: creekfreak on November 08, 2003, 12:58:26 PM: I would only use a pad if I absolutely had to.
Title: Re:run the -10 db on the oktavas?
Post by: Simp-Dawg on November 09, 2003, 12:39:02 PM: here's the info from the thread calico posted that relates to your question...
Quote
> finally, for personal reference, are the -10dB pads
> matched also?
Quote:
NO - and I would do everything in my power to NEVER use one.

> yikes...i've been using these quite often as the mics
> seem to be fairly sensitive. what is "bad" about
> them?
Quote:
They are a simple buffer-use capacitor design. About as sophisticated
as
using a steel collander (spaghetti seive) to make a shower head.
Capacitors
are not matched and they not only lower the signal strength, but affect
(color) the sound in un-natural ways.
Title: Re:run the -10 db on the oktavas?
Post by: hoobash on November 10, 2003, 12:40:50 AM: I ran it all the time with my mp2. Its hard to adjust the levels on the mp2 without the pad
Title: Re:run the -10 db on the oktavas?
Post by: Cooker on November 11, 2003, 02:31:11 PM: i have yet to use them, but running mk012 > Mv-100 > M1 i am worried that i will have to. the m1 a/d will brickwall under 4 on the knob, and the mv-100 has at a minimum 20DB of gain. i was lucky to be able to record the ddbb show at ottobar without them, but i was running real hot with the deck set on 4 exactly.
Title: Re:run the -10 db on the oktavas?
Post by: joeshambro on November 11, 2003, 03:12:28 PM: I ran the Oktavas for 3 years, and almost always ran the pad on them. I don't understand why people say not to, because I always had better results with them...
Title: Re:run the -10 db on the oktavas?
Post by: olyrc on November 12, 2003, 12:43:10 PM: Trying them without the pads for the first time tomorrow for Mraz. We'll see how it compares...
Title: Re:run the -10 db on the oktavas?
Post by: silentmark on November 12, 2003, 02:52:54 PM: Quote from: joeshambro on November 11, 2003, 03:12:28 PM
I ran the Oktavas for 3 years, and almost always ran the pad on them. I don't understand why people say not to, because I always had better results with them...

I never use them and the few times I did I thought the tapes were lacking, shrug ...
Title: Re:run the -10 db on the oktavas?
Post by: joeshambro on November 12, 2003, 09:40:06 PM: Then again, my pair were fairly old compared to most... and sounded a hell of a lot better, even pre-mod..
Title: Re:run the -10 db on the oktavas?
Post by: Tim on November 13, 2003, 10:30:25 AM: Here's where I'm coming from on my opinion to never use them....

my first set of mics were akg 391's. regardless of how you think they sound compared to the okatava's I think we can all agree that AKG's quality control is exponentially better than Oktava's. The -10db pad on the 391's was just awful sounding. It just squeezes all of the "life" out of the microphone... kills it dead.

My thinking was that if a company that uses quality components like AKG has a microphone that costs significantly more new than the Oktava's cannot produce a quality pad then why should I expect oktava too?