Topic: my bad

[vegeta_ban]

  I just noticed that tlh converts a 24 bit files to 16 bit when encoding to flac. I wanted to let people know if they didn't already.

[vanark]

Ummm... What?  I think you need to explain that a little more.

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

I just played a 24bit FLAC file in Foobar, and it shows the file as 1618kbps, 48000 Hz...

I converted the same exact file to WAV and the WAV shows 2304 kbps, 48000 Hz...

Curious...

Terry

[page]

I just played a 24bit FLAC file in Foobar, and it shows the file as 1618kbps, 48000 Hz...

I converted the same exact file to WAV and the WAV shows 2304 kbps, 48000 Hz...

sounds sort of like a bad header

If you take a 24bit wav, send it to flac and decode it back to wave, does it match via md5?

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

I just played a 24bit FLAC file in Foobar, and it shows the file as 1618kbps, 48000 Hz...

I converted the same exact file to WAV and the WAV shows 2304 kbps, 48000 Hz...

sounds sort of like a bad header

If you take a 24bit wav, send it to flac and decode it back to wave, does it match via md5?

Not sure...  I'm at work now...  But its a fileset that I DLed and it didn't come with a WAV MD5, so I could just be generating an MD5 of the bad WAV... 

This is the Fileset I DLed:  http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=560176

Terry

[runonce]

OP mentioned Traders Little Helper...not sure that matters though.

[hi and lo]

I just played a 24bit FLAC file in Foobar, and it shows the file as 1618kbps, 48000 Hz...

That's completely normal and has nothing to do with TLH. Foobar is displaying the compressed bit rate of the file it's playing before decoding back to PCM, I believe. The decoded PCM should bit-for-bit the same as the original.

[audBall]

I just played a 24bit FLAC file in Foobar, and it shows the file as 1618kbps, 48000 Hz...

That's completely normal and has nothing to do with TLH. Foobar is displaying the compressed bit rate of the file it's playing before decoding back to PCM, I believe. The decoded PCM should bit-for-bit the same as the original.

I've always wondered about this as well. Even thought of posting about it at one point. It'd be nice if what you think is actually the case. 

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

I just played a 24bit FLAC file in Foobar, and it shows the file as 1618kbps, 48000 Hz...

That's completely normal and has nothing to do with TLH. Foobar is displaying the compressed bit rate of the file it's playing before decoding back to PCM, I believe. The decoded PCM should bit-for-bit the same as the original.

Yeah, I only had 2min. to look at it before I had to leave for work this morning... 

Would the compressed bit rate show up as 16bit in TLH??? 

Terry

[JasonSobel]

you people are nuts (except for hi and lo).

1.  Trader's Little Helper does not convert 24 bit files to 16 bit files.  I don't think it has that capability, even if you wanted it to do it.

2.  Foobar bit rates.  It takes the total file size, and divides by the length of the song.  That's it.  a 16 bit / 44.1 kHz WAV file always shows up as 1411 kbps.  take that same WAV file and convert it to FLAC, and foobar will show a different bit rate, most likely somewhere in the 700 - 915 kbps range, corresponding with the 50-65% relative size of FLAC files to WAV.  But, as we all know, FLAC is lossless.  but the overall file size has been compressed, so foobar displays a smaller bit rate.  this is absolutely 100% how foobar works, for both 16 bit & 24 bit WAV and FLAC files.

[vegeta_ban]

did not know that, thanks

[F.O.Bean]

Thanks Jason. I KNEW that couldn't be true

[Marshall7]

I knw that, but didn't know how to explain it properly.  Well done, Jason!